OPINIONS
- The indigenous population of this country is reducing
it's birth rate because it can't afford babies due to the
high cost of housing, which is due to a housing shortage,
which, to a large extent, is due to hordes of immigrants
having hordes of babies although little low cost housing
is being built. Anything better than a corrugated iron
shack is luxury to many immigrants.
- A lot of the asylum seekers and economic migrants coming
here are crooks who see us as a soft target for their
crookery. They are bringing drugs, vice, protection and
other rackets here. They see prosperity and are
determined to get it for themselves any way they can,
immediately if not sooner, they know that corruption is
the most effective way. It is the low life that is most
eager to migrate from poor countries to prosperous ones,
they know there will be rich pickings for them.
- Our naive leaders think all economic migrants are pure,
innocent and wish to cherish their new country, in fact,
many want to raddle it.
- Unemployed black people should be trained to do useful
work in their own continent, Africa. They should replace
the millions of Africans who are dying from AIDS and look
after the millions of orphans being left behind instead
of swaggering around our streets with drugs in their
pockets and guns in their belts.
- On last week's (18th Jan 03) BBC Radio4 Moral Maze
programme a black youth was quoted as saying he preferred
a short exciting life to a long boring one, Africa would
be the ideal place for him.
- According to another speaker on the programme 68% of Afro-Caribbean
males between the ages of 18 and 24 are without a job, if
they can't be found work here they should be trained for
Voluntary Service Overseas, it might do them a lot of
good to see what Africa is like.
- Other things that came up in this programme are that
there is a "mass fatherlessness problem" in the Afro-Caribbean community and "raging teenage
pregnancy rates". This just isn't acceptable, we
cannot allow it to continue, if these people are
determined to irresponsibly breed like rabbits they must
either do it somewhere where nature has effective
population controls in place, ie. Africa, or we must make
sure they can't do it, by sterilisation if that is the
only way. We are under no obligation to welcome cuckoos
to our nest, the white races don't have to commit
national and racial suicide for the benefit of the black
ones but that is what we are doing at present, we are
supporting people who are a serious threat to our
survival and the survival of civilisation. We are letting
them become the majority in this country just as the
Catholics are becoming the majority in Northern Ireland,
so that they can get control and do what they like with
the rest of us. Most people, including our leaders, are
too blind to see this and too dim or irresponsible to
care anyway.
- The Japanese don't bear the overhead of tens of thousands
of asylum seekers and economic migrants, they don't admit
any, despite being more successful and prosperous than
us, I don't expect the South Koreans or Taiwanese do
either.. How are we supposed to compete with them? If the
Japanese don't have to take any refugees, asylum seekers
or immigrants why do we?
- Immigrants and asylum seekers are taking the work that
the less able members of society need in order to survive.
It looks as though large numbers of elderly people are
going to need work to supplement their inadequate
pensions, where is this going to come from when large
numbers of the indigenous population as well as
immigrants are doing more than one job to get all the
expensive toys they crave.
- The important question is not so much whether we are
tolerant of minority races in this, our own country, now,
it is whether they will be tolerant and even-handed with
us when they become the majority and have control, as is
predicted to happen in as little as fifty years time. If
what happens in these people's own countries is anything
to go by the answer is that they won't be. It was only a
few years ago that Hutus massacred about a million?
Tutsis in Ruanda with machetes and, more recently, guerrillas have been chopping off the limbs of government
supporters in Sierra Leone?, more recently still,
President Mugabe has been giving us another(?)
demonstration of the remarkable civilising influence an
Oxford University education has on third world leaders.
Turks and Kurds fighting each other for control of the
drugs trade and protection racket in Birmingham?, a large
proportion of the passengers on flights from the West
Indies bringing in drugs, Eastern European pimps and
prostitutes operating in London's Soho, where will it
end? It seems a trifle unwise in these circumstances to
let the minority population of this country rise much
above it's present proportion of the total.
- This country is seriously over-populated already,
immigration is undesirable.
- Worldwide there are probably tens or even hundreds of
millions of people who would like to come to live in this
country as British citizens, our standard of living would
have to fall drastically before they would stop wanting
to come. We can't possibly accommodate them all; it isn't
fair and just to pick out the ones who are useful to us,
let them come and reject all the others. Those who are
most useful to us are almost certainly the most useful to
their own people in their own country. It would be far
more satisfactory to help them improve their situation in
their own countries. We have to intervene in the
countries the immigrants are coming from, not to colonise
them but to remove the corrupt dictators and then ensure
that they are well governed and given all the technical
help they need.
- There must be millions of people in Africa who are HIV
positive and would like to come to this country to get
the drugs they need.
- If all the developed countries descend into the chaos and
backwardness of the poorest countries as a result of
excessive immigration there will be little hope of a
decent civilisation surviving anywhere.
- Recent immigrants have not been properly assimilated yet,
further immigration will make matters worse.
- Immigrants, especially if they are easily distinguishable
by their colour, for example, usually have very different
interests to the indigenous population; for instance,
they want to increase their numbers as fast as possible
in order to become a larger and therefore more
influential minority or even the majority. It is this
population pressure that is pushing up the price of
housing in this country to uneconomic levels, pushing up
our cost of living and making us uncompetitive
internationally.
- In a recent Moral Maze programme on Radio 4 it was said
that the coloured population of the USA was 16 million in
1960 and is now 80 million. A similar ballooning of the
ethnic minority population is almost certainly taking
place in this country, it is being hidden by the falling
birth rate of the indigenous population. It has been said
that ethnic minorities will be the majority in as little
as fifty years. White people will be an outvoted,
powerless and vulnerable minority everywhere if present
trends continue much longer. Still, the leaders of the
new majority will no doubt be civilised, Oxford educated
people like President Mugabe of Zimbabwe, so our children
have nothing to fear.
- In Northern Ireland, the only reason the IRA have become
a bit more accommodating is because they know they are
winning the breeding war, in a few years time Catholic
Nationalists will be the majority and will be able to
outvote the Unionists. Every time someone in Northern
Ireland is murdered we are told how many children they
have, five or six in the case of Unionists, nine or ten
in the case of Nationalists. The rest of Britain is
having to subsidise the rabbit like breeding of both
sides and all the ethnic minorities, how can we compete
with countries like Japan, South Korea and China which
are almost completely mono-cultural, don't have these
overheads and have, or are getting, population growth
under control. (Apparently the birth rate in Japan is
currently 1.1 per family but it doesn't seem possible
that it will remain at such a low level for long.
According to a recent article in The Evening Standard by
a journalist who lives in Japan, young people there have
lost interest in marriage and having a family, largely
because wives are also expected to look after their in-laws
and are no longer prepared to do it. In Catholic,
children loving, Italy the birth rate is said to be 1.3
per family, ours might be similar if it wasn't for the
Irish and other immigrants).
- Some immigrants are using arranged marriages with people
from their homeland to bring in more immigrants and
ensure that their population in this country rises almost
exponentially.
- Many immigrants don't want to assimilate, they want to
create a colony in this country. Our colonisation of
their countries was evil, their colonisation of ours is
just fine. Eventually they will want their colonies to
have devolution, some are thinking along these lines
already, (in this country and also in the United States).
- Most people in both the indigenous population and the
immigrant population don't want to live in a multi-racial
society hence the creation of white suburbs and ethnic
inner city ghettoes. Living in some parts of London and
many other cities is now more like living in Africa or
India.
- Living in a multicultural society seems to mean we have
to live with drug culture, gun culture, gang culture,
primitive music culture, vice culture, promiscuous sex
culture, hordes of babies culture etc.etc. Our highly
developed European culture is being swamped by primitive
cultures from backward countries. The indigenous
population is going downhill rather than the immigrant
population being raised to a higher level.
- Most people find alien people with alien beliefs,
behaviour, interests, habits, enthusiasms etc. intensely
irritating, that is why everybody tries to move away when
ethnic minorities start to take over an area. Our leaders
are so blind they haven't noticed that this happens. They
wouldn't be so keen on multiculturalism if they found
themselves unable to escape from the thumping beat of
reggae, rap or whatever all day everyday, the torture
some people have to endure from their neighbours. Of
course, residents of Downing Street, Islington, Chelsea
and Kensington probably don't have this problem, not yet
anyway.
- The middle classes don't care too much about immigration,
it doesn't adversely affect them, it provides a pool of
even cheaper and more vulnerable labour for them to
exploit to enrich themselves further. Their present serfs
can accept even worse poverty in order to compete or go
to Hell.
- Only a little more than a century ago the white
colonisers of the USA more or less completed the genocide
of the indigenous population of North America, just over
fifty years ago Hitler was practising genocide on the
Jews (and treating Slavs almost as badly), the Jews are
right now in the final stages of the displacement of the
indigenous population of Palestine, less than five years
ago the Hutus were using machetes to commit genocide on
the Tutsis (or vice versa?) in Ruanda, rebels were
hacking the limbs off their victims even more recently in
Liberia?, yet we are naively letting ourselves be placed
in the position where we could be on the receiving end of
this kind of treatment in a short period of time, we are
letting our country fall into the hands of aliens with
completely different interests to our own. Civilisation
is a fragile thing. Obscene class and wealth differences
are an intolerable aggravation for many of us, the
additional tensions and problems caused by racial and
religious differences threaten to make life completely
unbearable.
- Most of the countries we take immigrants from don't
welcome white Anglo-Saxon immigrants themselves. If
foreigners are to be allowed to live here we must at
least be allowed to emigrate to their countries on the
same basis.
- There aren't many white people left in most of Africa,
they are being squeezed out of Zimbabwe and soon I expect
they will be made unwelcome in South Africa. There are
hardly any white people still resident in the Indian sub-continent.
There are now more than a billion Indians in a country
that is less than a third the area of China, if we are
not careful our cities will become like Calcutta. Other
races must learn to improve conditions in their own
countries, primarily by controlling the growth of their
populations, they shouldn't be allowed to spread the
curse of over-population to every corner of the world.
- It is extremely unwise to risk becoming a minority in our
own country, it has been predicted that it could happen
in as little as fifty years if policies aren't changed.
The white races will soon be a minority everywhere in the
world if current trends continue, it is completely
irresponsible to allow this to happen at the present
stage of human development, it may be alright in the not
very distant future but it is premature now.
- I read somewhere recently that Japan doesn't allow the
immigration of any foreigners at all, it only repatriates
it's own nationals who had settled abroad. Homogenous
societies are generally reckoned to be more successful
than mixed ones. If Japan can have this policy why can't
we?
- There is no need for Indians and Pakistanis to come to
this country, there are better prospects for them at
home, their own countries are developing rapidly while
ours is going downhill towards third world status. They
didn't like being colonised by us, so we left; why do we
have to like being colonised by them. Those in this
country are reckoned to be the most enterprising, they
ought to be helping their own people in their own country.
- Foreign culture isn't always enjoyed by indigenous
populations, most probably find it a serious aggravation,
this is why they move out of residential areas when
ethnic minorities move in.
- Different races and creeds tend to get on each other's
nerves. Meeting people who are very different is fine now
and then, when on holiday for example, but continuous
contact tends to become irritating quite quickly. It is
no good exhorting everybody to be tolerant; some people
are much more sensitive to aggravation than others. For
example, quite a lot of people would have to be
anaesthetised or lobotomised before they could tolerate
day long beat music or rap coming through the wall from
next door. I am occasionally driven near homicidal by
beat music from nearby flats myself, even with white
neighbours, I dread ethnic minority neighbours, so do
many other people. Our politicians get a false impression
of what it is like to live in close proximity to members
of ethnic minorities because those they have contact with
for any length of time are from the educated
intelligentsia. They are therefore not qualified to judge
what is good for the rest of us and have no right to
since they are supposed to be representing our views, not
their own, in what is supposed to be a democracy.
- Our country is being colonised by hordes of people from
alien and backward cultures. It is a dangerous
development. They didn't like being colonised by us,
understandably, although we opened their eyes to a more
advanced civilisation, but we have to like being
colonised by them. The colonisation we are suffering now
appears to be taking the indigenous population backwards
rather than the immigrants forwards. The cultures of
drugs, guns, crime, sexual degradation, violence,
irresponsibility etc. are becoming more and more
pervasive.
- The UN (etc.) inserted the Jews into Palestine, look at
the trouble that has caused ever since.
- Our highly developed European culture is being wiped out
by primitive cultures brought in by immigrants from
backward parts of the world, we are going backwards to
their level. We are not obliged to destroy ourselves on
behalf of the parts of the world where the indigenous
people haven't learned to look after themselves. Up to
now, our attempts to improve the lot of these people have
generally neither been successful nor well received,
nevertheless, we are obliged to continue to try to be
helpful.
- We need to invest, ethically, in poor countries to stop
their populations wanting to come here. Overall, rather
than investing, the advanced countries are probably still
plundering the mineral, forest, and agricultural wealth
of the third world, possibly to an even greater extent
than in colonial times.
- Ethnic minorities think immigration should be possible
for everybody who wants to come because that is in their
interests, they want to be the majority, this is
diametrically opposed to the interests of the indigenous
population.
- Immigrants should have to qualify for British citizenship.
They should have to reject their primitive beliefs and
practices and show themselves capable of contributing to
our society, not jeopardising it.
- Refugees should normally only be given temporary
residence in this country until they can return to their
own safely.
- There are more than 10 million immigrants in France
apparently.
- When global warming progresses a bit further there could
be billions of people wanting to move to cooler climates.
- Our politicians are not fulfilling their duty to allow us
to exercise our democratic rights, they are imposing
ethnic immigration on us when it is highly unlikely that
the majority of the population are in favour of it. They
love boosting their egos by playing God, they need to be
put where they belong, doing hard manual labour, that is
all they are fit for. They have given what was Arab
Palestine to the Jews; if we don't stop them they will
give Britain to the Hottentots in return for the warm,
sanctimonious glow that gives them.
- People who dress differently to the rest of us are a
provocation. They are saying "look at me, I am
different to you" or, more often "look at me, I
am superior to you". It would be strange if we liked
that. Muslim women who wear scarves or ????? over their
hair (or the full rig with veil etc.) are saying "I
am more pious, devout, spiritual and holy than you are",
in fact, they are just more deluded, conceited and
therefore more nauseating than the rest of us. We have
every right to dislike these people. If they want to
affect this pose they should go somewhere where that is
the custom, there are plenty of such places, not inflict
it on us. They want to enjoy the material benefits of our
society without abandoning the navel contemplating
narcissism of their own, is it any wonder they arouse
hostility?
- There should be timely intervention in countries that are
generating refugees and asylum seekers to sort matters
out. Apparently, large numbers of asylum seekers are
coming to this country from Zimbabwe now. If we had
helped to organise effective measures to ensure that the
recent elections in that country were fair and just, it
is unlikely that this would be the case. Any Zimbabweans
coming to this country should be trained to return to
Zimbabwe and sort out it's problems. (According to this
month's (June 2002) New Internationalist magazine, the
average life expectancy of Zimbabweans has fallen by 26
years due to the AIDS epidemic in their country; how many
of these asylum seekers are HIV positive, hoping to get
drug treatment here at our expense and likely to
aggravate the spread of the disease here?)
- On immigration, people have to vote with their feet, by
moving away from areas as the immigrants move in, the
governing class makes sure they don't get the chance to
exercise their democratic right in a referendum or other
sort of ballot.
- Britain appears to have failed dismally in the colonial
era as far as preparing the populations of many of the
colonies (Africa, India etc.) for the future is concerned.
Now we are paying the price, large numbers from their
populations wanting to emigrate to this country.
- Under capitalism, a large proportion of the population
are virtually slaves already, large numbers of immigrants
will make the situation a lot worse. A large proportion
of the population already has to do work that is an
insult to their intelligence. Most of our industry has
gone or is going, the only jobs left are inane customer
service jobs, most third world peasants who have their
own plot of land can lead a more natural and fulfilling
life growing their own food and building their own
shelter.
- The myth is being propagated that this country needs
immigrants to help to maintain the growth of the economy
by filling skills shortages such as doctors and teachers.
This is nonsense. The only reason there are skills
shortages in this country is because people are being
given inappropriate training, or are being deprived of
the opportunity to receive training or retraining, or are
being deprived of the opportunity to do the work they
trained to do. There is no shortage of doctors in this
country. The trouble is that most doctors are being given
far more training , at a higher level than is
appropriate, than they will ever get the opportunity to
use. The result is that they are not very good at the
relatively straightforward job they should be doing,
diagnosing and treating illness (or more likely, just
deciding the appropriate treatment). The same is true of
teachers and probably, practically every other profession.
It is ridiculous that primary school teachers and even
secondary school teachers have to have degrees, it should
be possible to train children who want to be primary
school teachers in the sixth form of secondary school,
likewise teachers who will teach one subject to 'O' level
standard (how many secondary school teachers teach more
than one subject?). Even 'A' level teachers should
probably need only one year of training after getting a
good 'A' level grade in the subject they plan to teach.
Most of the education given to most people in this
country is an almost complete waste of time and money, it
is never used and serves no purpose. If it was made
possible for people to be retrained to do a specific job
at any time in their working life there would be no
skills shortages. Few jobs require more than a year's
training, a month's training is adequate for most.
However, a large section of society has to persuade
itself it is superior and therefore entitled to a better
life than everybody else, it uses a long period of
education to delude itself and dupe the rest of us.
- In addition, a large proportion of the population is
doing work that would be unnecessary in a well run, just
society, work that has been invented to provide a large
number of the middle class with cushy, well paid,
parasitic positions that enable them to suck the blood of
the productive workforce.
- It is an almost universal fact of life that most people
prefer and seek out the company of their own kind, their
own race, their own class, their own intellectual level,
their own trade or profession, their own outlook, their
own psychological type etc., etc. and avoid the company
of other people in proportion to their difference.
Evidence of this is all around, everywhere, in every part
of the world, in every town , every city, every village
but the people who think they have the right to decide
what is good for everybody else deny it and smear anybody
who acknowledges it with the labels racist and bigot.
- Mixing people who don't want to be mixed is a recipe for
disaster, look no further than Northern Ireland.
- The Moral Maze programme:- Immigration needed to let
third world get access to work. Immigrants wouldn't
become citizens necessarily. Guest worker system as used
by Germany - workers have families then want/expect to be
able to stay. The third world is inheriting the Earth
according to a Yank who took part, presumably because
it's population is growing so large and it's cheap labour
will suck up all the work.
- The Irish Republic is relatively sparsely populated and
it has been exporting the surplus fruit of it's people's
profligate, Catholic loins to this country and the USA
for generations. It's economy is taking off, perhaps it's
about time it was on the receiving end for a change,
perhaps we should redirect the immigrants arriving in
this country like France does but to Dublin. If Dublin
doesn't want them it can ship them to New York, George
Bush was boasting about the USA's generosity to
immigrants a short time ago and according to a recent
article in Newsweek? the US population may reach 500
million by 2050 so a few more immigrant won't be noticed.
- There is no need to give refugees British Nationality,
they should be given temporary resident status until the
situation in their own country is no longer dangerous for
them or until return to their own country becomes too big
a step for them due to age, infirmity or other reasons
including, perhaps, the cultural shock return after a
long period of absence would involve.
- The Government should do far more, through international
organisations such as the United Nations, to ensure that
the problems that produce refugees are speedily resolved.
- The reported shortages of qualified people are largely a
myth, the problem is that employers are too picky, they
won't employ people they consider too old (over 40),
people who don't have precisely the right experience (and
an unnecessarily large amount of it), people who might be
a threat to their own position, people who might need a
little training, people who obviously know more than they
do or are obviously more clever than they are, people who
show any sign of reluctance to be buried in a team or
position with no prospect of advancement, people who
aren't from the same background as they are, people whose
salary expectation is too low so implying that their own
is too high, people whose salary expectation is too high
- perhaps higher than their own, people who show any sign
that they might question their prospective employer's
judgement or authority from time to time, etc., etc. The
skills shortage is largely the fault of employers and
this country's education system. It would be unjust if
refugees were given an unfair advantage over the
indigenous population due to the prejudices, legal and
illegal (both can usually be hidden), of employers, the
shortcomings of our education system or for any other
reason. Employers like to employ refugees because they
can pay them low wages and make a large profit for
themselves out of them.
- How many of the people coming to this country claiming to
be refugees are HIV positive and coming here mainly in
the hope of getting free treatment? How many are likely
to spread the disease in this country?
- Population control is vital in the modern world so that
everyone can live contented, civilised lives rather than
fighting for scarce and dwindling resources. We can't
live like lemmings, their population explodes when there
is plenty to eat then most starve to death when they have
eaten all the food available.
- The human population is predicted to peak at about ten
billion not far in the future This could be wishful
thinking and it is too high a figure anyway, a reversal
of population growth is needed now. Population growth has
to stop eventually, why wait until nature imposes it's
own limit the painful way. (According to an expert
speaking on a radio program some (considerable) time ago,
the environmentally sound, sustainable population of this
country is less than 5 million.)
- According to a report in the Economist (25/8/2002), the
US population could rise to 500 million by 2050 due to a
baby boom and immigration. This is ludicrous and
irresponsible. It is doubtful whether the US can feed a
population of this size without importing vast amounts of
food, yet it is about the only country that produces food
surpluses that can be used for famine and disaster relief
elsewhere. In 50 years time it will be part of the cause
of famines in the third world and the victims will have
to starve. The US is probably worried that China will
displace it from it's No.1 superpower position if it
doesn't increase it's population. This isn't a valid
reason for population increase.
- If the US can accommodate this increase in it's population
it can easily accommodate the c5 million? Jews it foisted
on Palestine and give them their own Palestine sized
slice of territory.
- There seems to be a body of opinion that thinks that
birth rates should be kept up to provide an increasing
supply of young working people to support and finance the
pensions of the increasing population of the old. This is
lunacy, the population would continue to rise until there
was mass starvation if this policy was sustained, the old
must support themselves for longer. It is ridiculous for
people to expect a decades long holiday at the end of
their lives. In most cultures the majority of people have
to do a certain amount of work to support themselves
almost until death, this is as it should be.
- Everybody should be limited to being the biological
parent of no more than two children. In Northern Ireland
Catholics and Protestants are trying to outbreed each
other to get and keep political control respectively, the
same thing is no doubt happening elsewhere; in the long
term such behaviour will be catastrophic. It is unfair
even in the short term, all these children are probably
being supported to a large extent by people other than
their parents and they put great pressure on resources
when they grow up and need housing and jobs. Both men and
women should be given the snip when they have had two, or
three?, children. If they have three children perhaps
those children, when they become adults, should be
restricted to having just one to compensate.
- The population should be declining because people are
tending to have their children later in life. Since it
isn't, it means that people must be having more children
on average. If people go back to marrying early and
having their children soon afterwards, which is a more
normal (and probably more healthy) pattern, there will be
another substantial rise in the population.
- What were the results of the last census, it appears they
are being censored by the Government? Is the Government
hiding explosive growth of the ethnic minority part of
the population? The populations of Scotland, Italy, Japan
and Germany are shrinking at present, this is a good
trend, it is a pity it can't be reproduced world-wide.
- According to an article in the Appointments section of
the Nov.24 02 Sunday Telegraph the population of India
will increase by 500 million and that of Nigeria by 160
million over an unspecified time period. According to two
atlases in my possession the population of India was 586.3
million in 1977, 809.1 million in 1988 and was predicted
to be 961.5 million in 2000. Since it is now over 1
billion the prediction seems to have been quite accurate.
The corresponding figures for Nigeria are 66.2 million,
110.0 million and 161.9 million (2002 population 126.3
according to another atlas) so it appears that Nigeria's
population is expected to double. These figures
illustrate how serious the over-population problem is, it
is ridiculous to believe that these rapid increases can
be sustained, the longer they are allowed to continue the
worse the situation will become, the outlook for
everybody is getting to look very grim. These extra
millions can't be allowed to expand into the developed
world to continue their over-breeding there but it could
be very difficult to stop them. The developing countries
are failing to cope with their problems, perhaps the
developed nations should consider intervening again
before it is too late. The principal form of aid the
Third World needs is birth control. The only alternative
is likely to be starvation and disease. At present,
disease in the form of AIDS looks as though it might be
the dominant control.
- It might be in the best interests of the human race to
let the AIDS epidemic run it's course without
interference. Apart from bringing the population down to
a more sustainable level in the short term, it might also
have the evolutionary advantage of eliminating the genes
for promiscuity, irresponsibility and one track
mindedness from the human genome by killing off all those
who possess them, on the other hand, it might not. It
might be a good idea to spread this idea around to scare
people into more sensible behaviour, then again, it might
not.
- The best thing we could do for Africa is probably to
train all the people of African origin in this country
how to give the snip to men and women and then return
them to the continent.