THE VIOLENCE IN PALESTINE TERRORISM   Topic Index
THE HISTORY OF PALESTINE JUDAISM   RESPONSE FORM

NEWS:   SUICIDE BOMBING
   Robert Kilroy Silk describes Arabs as limb amputators, suicide bombers and woman abusers.
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   More derogatory remarks about Arabs and Muslims with suicide bombers being first in line for criticism. The Arabs wouldn't use suicide bombing to try to regain the land that has been taken from them by the Jewish invaders and colonisers of their country if they had the state of the art main battle tanks, helicopter gun ships and jet fighters the Jews have but the Western Powers who stitched them up and sanctioned the 20th century Jewish Crusade into their country make sure they can't get much more than a few old Kalashnikovs. Suicide bombers are the only effective weapon available to the Palestinians. Their own families and friends suffer as much distress as those of their victims.
   Some people seem to think that suicide bombing is particularly evil and even cowardly. Surely it is the most altruistic and heroic act a person can perform if it is done in a just cause and as a last resort, qualifications that are both met in this instance, (the Arabs have every right to try to regain the land that was taken from them and given as a gift to the Jews, the USA being the country most responsible for being generous with other people's land and property (although this country and others were almost as bad)). When British and US citizens sacrifice their lives in a just cause, to try to save others or for the honour of their country they are heroes, when Arabs do it they are heinous, the hypocrisy is nauseating. 
   There is one possible weakness in the defence of suicide killing for a just cause, this concerns it's consequences for the killer. Christians probably expect to be rewarded by going to everlasting life in heaven. The Koran promises an immediate reward of everlasting life(?) in a paradise populated by plentiful virgins. If suicide bombers are confident they are taking a short-cut to the world of their dreams they are not making a personal sacrifice or doing anything very praiseworthy (apart from benefiting the cause that inspires the act) unless they are very happy in, ie. would prefer to remain in, their pre-suicide circumstances. It is unlikely that anybody but an idiot or drug user undertakes a suicide mission without fear, trepidation, misgivings and the sense that they are taking a leap into the unknown and an enormous risk of a terrible fate so, in most cases, some praise is due. (On the other hand, some people, ie mountain climbers, don't seem to value life very highly, they take enormous risks). The people who are most open to criticism in this matter are those who persuade suicide bombers that there is a heaven or paradise or the possibility of eternal life, and that suicide killing for a just cause is a way of accessing them quickly and certainly, despite there being no convincing evidence that this is the case. Step forward most peddlers of religion.
   This country has used near suicide tactics whenever it seemed to be necessary and even if it was futile, for example:- the Charge of the Light Brigade, the hundreds of thousands? of Tommies forced to go over the top to near certain death in the face of heavy machine-gun fire in the First World War, the pilots in the Battle of Britain. If it is the targeting of civilians that is thought to be so abominable then we, the Americans and the Jews have done plenty of that too. According to the Bible, the Jews were doing it, supported by their Holy? God, thousands of years ago when they first invaded Palestine and killed every living thing, men, women, children, sheep and goats, first in Jericho then about four other places (Joshua 6:21 etc.). Most recently Ariel Sharon was responsible for the indiscriminate bombardment of part of Beirut in which 17,000 civilians were killed according to one source. This country's most questionable attack on civilians was probably the fire-storm bombing of Dresden in the Second World War and America's the fire-storm bombing of all the major Japanese cities and the atom bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki (also the use of napalm and agent orange in Vietnam). Between the three of us we are almost certainly responsible for many, many times more civilian casualties than the Arabs, particularly in recent times. In Palestine, the Arabs targeted soldiers when they could do it with a reasonable chance of success, it is only since the military's security precautions have been tightened that they have targeted civilians as a last resort.
   If large scale Jewish immigration had been forced on this country by the League of Nations soon after the end of the First World War (as happened to the Palestinians),
   then just after the end of the Second World War the United Nations had decreed that the country must be partitioned into a Jewish half and an indigenous population half (as happened to the Palestinians),
    without even taking any steps to ensure that the partition was executed in an orderly way (as happened to the Palestinians, probably because the USA wanted the result that occurred),
    so that fighting inevitably broke out as we, the indigenous population, tried to hold on to our land (as happened to the Palestinians),
   and the Jews won because they had the money and influence to buy arms, enabling them to terrorise 700,000 of us out of our homes (not to be allowed back) and to take more land than they had been allocated (as happened to the Palestinians),
   and over fifty years later the Jews were still seizing more of the little that was left of our partition (as is happening to the Palestinians),
   we would be a little upset and might even still have the guts to try to drive our oppressors out of what had been our country.
   Practically everybody in this country except pacifists professes to admire and be inspired by Winston Churchill's Second World War speech "We shall fight them on the beaches.......; we shall never surrender; etc. ", yet most seem to expect the Palestinians to meekly give in to the annexation of their country by the Jews (backed by the might of the USA), whose only claim to it rests on their belief that they have a divine right to occupy it whenever it is convenient for them because they have been circumcising their boy babies for millennia. Their claim that this fulfils their side of a bargain Abraham made with their God about three thousand years ago, which was supposed to guarantee their perpetual occupation of the Palestine area, is worthless since they wrote the Bible (where the story comes from, Genesis 17:1-14) themselves, no doubt to suit their own interests. They have been driven from the area twice since this bizarre bargain was supposedly struck, have only governed the area for short periods and were largely absent from the area from about 135 AD, when the Romans drove them from it, until the Zionists started colonising it again at the end of the nineteenth century. Their God, in the unlikely event that he, she or it exists and knows of this primitive, kinky covenant, seems to treat it with the contempt it deserves, so should we. Since the Bible punchers of the USA naively seem to believe that every word in the Bible is the word of God and the literal truth despite it being known that Judaism evolved over a long period and picked up bits and pieces of other primitive religions along the way, it is likely that they swallow the myth of the covenant as enthusiastically as the Jews, which perhaps explains their support for them.
   The Islamic "terrorism" problem would almost certainly not exist today if the USA and Britain (principally) hadn't practised racial discrimination and racial engineering in the Middle East at the end of the First and Second World Wars on behalf of the Jews and at the expense of the Arabs, they only have themselves to blame (not Al Quaeda) for the current mess. They prate about freedom and democracy but denied both to the indigenous population of Palestine to serve their own self-interests and they have done nothing to help or compensate those who have suffered terribly as a result.

NEWS:   GAZA SETTLEMENTS
   Due to pressure from the USA, Ariel Sharon has ordered some Jews to withdraw from their settlements in the West Bank or the Gaza Strip. Radio 4 broadcast the reaction of one of them; he complained that he and his fellow settlers were being ethnically cleansed!!!!!
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   Under the protection of the USA (principally) the Jews have intentionally invaded and taken over nearly the whole of what was Arab/Muslim territory in Palestine displacing something like 700,000 Palestinians, according to the most common estimate, and wrecking the lives of most of the rest, yet this particular ignorant, corrupt hypocrite has the gall to squeal ethnic cleansing when he gets a dose of the medicine he and his countrymen have been very happy to dish out. It is time they were all ethnically cleansed to their moral and spiritual home, the genocidal (Red Indians), money-worshipping USA.
   Apparently there are now a quarter of a million Jewish settlers in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. When they have gained control of these areas they will start encroaching on Jordanian territory on the eastern bank of the Jordan which they consider to be theirs. It is about time the rest of the world made it plain to them that they are not God's chosen people and they have no divine rights. If they want to be accepted as full members of the human race they must abandon their primitive conceits and practices and start living in the modern world rather than the world of ignorance, superstition and fantasy that existed three thousand years ago. For as long as they seize land they abandoned and forfeited almost 2000 years ago and consider themselves to be the superior, chosen race they will continue to be loathed and despised as much as those who thought they were the master race.
   If anybody owed the Jews some land of their own it was surely the Germans, perhaps they should have been made to sacrifice the Baltic coast of Prussia or some other region?
   The Israelis have always been going on about having a viable state for themselves, they have never given a damn about what the Palestinians are left with and now it is just a small land-locked area of barren hilltops, certainly not a viable state. The Israelis expect the Palestinians to disappear into the desert, that is what they should do, or be made to do, themselves.

Most of the trouble in the Middle East and the hostility the Muslims feel towards the West has been caused by the insertion of the state of Israel into what had been Arab/Muslim territory for hundreds of years.

NEW OPINIONS

  1. The United Nations should sort out the mess in Palestine that it is responsible for creating as a matter of great urgency. It should be in continuous session until it has found a solution that is acceptable to the wronged parties - Palestinians, Arabs, Muslims. The only wholly satisfactory solution that will end all the terrorism is probably the dissolution of the state of Israel or it's removal to somewhere else. Somewhere where it will be accepted or that can be bought, Western Sahara perhaps? (Occupied by Morocco according to my atlas. Illegally? I think I have read that the people of Western Sahara are fighting for their independence but they might like to be resettled in Palestine or elsewhere if the offer was made to them, I shouldn't think there can be many of them.)
  2. It is bloody stupid (and criminal) to declare war on Islamic terrorism without first correcting the heinous injustice of the denial of democratic rights to the indigenous people of Palestine, the imposition of Jewish immigration on them about 75 years ago, a Jewish state about fifty years ago and ethnic cleansing, dispossession, war, misery and mayhem ever since. The creation of the state of Israel in the overwhelmingly Arab /Muslim territory of Palestine was a monstrous blunder which has to be undone before the consequences become catastrophic. The Jews don't have a divine right to the land of Palestine or to Jerusalem or to anything else, they don't deserve any special favours, they bring most of their misfortunes upon themselves by the belief of many of them (particularly the orthodox sort) that they are God's chosen people, ie. holier than everyone else and superior to everyone else (reminiscent of Hitler's ideas?), also by their insistence on being conspicuously different to everyone else. They are very fond of labelling their critics anti-semitic and racist but they are both themselves, most of their leaders (including Ariel Sharon) have believed the Arabs (another racial group generally considered to be Semitic (descended from Shem, Noah's first son)) to be an inferior race (just as Hitler regarded Jews and Slavs) and their marriage laws (Orthodox Jews particularly) forbid them to marry people of any other race (if they do, they become tainted and cannot be Orthodox Jews any more), ie. they (the unreformed variety at least) are also hypocrites of the first order.
  3. The small and third world members of the League of Nations then the United Nations were strong-armed and bribed by the Jews and major powers into authorising the Jews to invade and take over the Arab /Muslim country of Palestine.
  4. The Jews plan to build 600 more homes in the West Bank. How is it that the Jews can build settlements wherever they like even in the Palestinian West Bank? Do they own the land, have they paid for it, is it wilderness, do they just seize whatever they want?
  5. The reaction of the USA to merely having 4 planes hijacked and crashed into the twin towers and the Pentagon was to declare a war on terrorism and invade Afghanistan and Iraq. How would it react if the United Nations voted for it to be partitioned into two halves, one of which would be for the Jews? 
  6. The leaders of the Western Nations (and their people) seem to be too blind, stupid or arrogant to even recognise that the creation of Israel in Palestine was an unforgivable mistake, a huge insult and 
    humiliation to Arabs and Muslims and a huge act of injustice and terrorism. The Jews were encouraged to practise ethnic cleansing and dispossession by terrorism of the indigenous population yet now, as they continue to help themselves to even more land and batter any opposition, they are allowed to claim they are fighting terrorism. Their aiders and abetters, principally the USA, also claim to be fighting terrorism. Has there ever before been such colossal hypocrisy, injustice and culpability? 
  7. Britain's role in this is only slightly less dishonourable than that of the USA.
  8. Terrorism is virtually certain to continue and get worse if the injustice of the imposition of a Jewish state on Palestine isn't rescinded.
  9. The United Nations should be compelled to sort out the hopeless mess it was responsible for creating. It should be in continuous session until a solution acceptable to the Palestinians, Arabs generally and Muslims generally has been found. If this requires the Jews to leave Palestine so be it, they deserve a taste of their own medicine. They are not god's chosen elite (it is highly unlikely that there is a god), they don't have any divine rights, only the same human rights the rest of us have, they can't have everything they want at other people's expense, their unpopularity and fate is the result of their own conceit, their determination to be different to and aloof from everybody else, they are as racist as anyone else, they despise the Arabs in the same way that 
    Hitler despised the Slavs, when anybody criticises them they shout anti-semite yet they are anti-semitic themselves when the other Semites are Arabs, they are just as hypocritical as everybody else.
  10. The handing over of half of Palestine to the Jews was shameful and one of the worst acts of injustice and terrorism of the twentieth century. No group or race with any sense of honour would have accepted such unjust and misplaced charity.
  11. If it's right for Libya to pay £? billion compensation for the Lockerbie bombing how much is it right for the Jews to pay in compensation for the seizure of Palestinian territory?
  12. A group of people who are so deluded they think they are The Almighty God's chosen elite are on the same level as that other group who thought they were the master race. That is why they are equally unpopular with the rest of humanity.
  13. The Jews have shown that they cannot win the support of the Palestinian Arabs and therefore that the whole Zionist idea was misconceived.
  14. The Jews are supposed to save all their worship for God, they aren't supposed to worship false idols like temple ruins or cities. (Ariel Sharon claimed that the Jews have a divine right to Jerusalem a few months ago.) They don't even obey their God.
  15. Why should the rich Jews (collectively) be given favours at the expense of the poor Arabs? The Jews have brought many of their misfortunes upon themselves by their "God's chosen people" conceit and their determination to remain separate, different and distinct wherever they go. If they wear peculiar clothes and ape Abraham they are bound to be disliked.
  16. Predictably, the attempt to insert a Jewish state into Palestine has been a 75 year long disaster, it is time to abort it before it causes even worse trouble than it has already.
  17. The West Bank and Gaza Strip don't constitute a viable state and they are nothing like a just settlement for the indigenous Palestinians. The Palestinians should at least have a contiguous area and a Mediterranean port or a suitable site for one. The Israelis, the illegitimate invaders, wouldn't be satisfied if they were left with the quarter of Palestine the indigenous population look like being forced to accept (one of the least desirable quarters), why should the Palestinians accept it? If one side in the conflict should be left with just a quarter of the total area of Palestine it should be the invaders. The Jews have constantly been preoccupied with their need for a viable state but they don't give a Damn about the original population, they don't want them to have anything at all.
  18. To make it easier for the Jews to withdraw from Palestine and as a gesture, perhaps the oil rich Arab countries could be persuaded to sell some of the worldwide assets they hold and use the proceeds to pay a token amount for the assets the Jews have created in Palestine and will have to abandon if they are resettled elsewhere. On the other hand, perhaps this isn't a good idea or a feasible one, the Jews were content to see the people they dispossessed living in refugee camps for decades.
  19. The major powers, particularly the USA and the UK, imposed the Jewish state of Israel on the Palestinians for their own strategic and convenience reasons yet now they have the effrontery to accuse the Palestinians of being terrorists and undemocratic, it beggars belief.
  20. Didn't the Pope apologise to Muslims recently for Christian behaviour during the Crusades? What sort of hypocrisy was this at a time when, for seventy five years or more, most Christian nations have aided and encouraged the Jews to invade and seize Palestine, an even less defensible colonial adventure in these supposedly enlightened times and at least as devastating for the indigenous Muslim population as the Crusades.
  21. The Jews have invaded and taken over another people's country by stealth, bribery, corruption and force, they and their free, democratic accomplices in the West are the terrorists.
  22. If the rich, powerful Western Nations wanted to give the Jews a new homeland they should have donated some of their own land for the purpose, not "authorised", via international bodies that effectively they controlled, the Jewish invasion and take-over of the land of a people that was too weak and poor to be able to resist effectively.
  23. The morality of the West is that the rich can always take from the poor and make their lives even more intolerable.
  24. The only principle that the western nations have is that their interests always come before those of any other people's.
  25. Even Alastaire Cooke of "Letter from America" fame (week ending June 29th 02 broadcast) seems to think that inserting a US friendly people into another people's state in the Middle East is something generous the USA should be proud of. I suppose he thinks US citizens would be delighted if the United Nations instructed the USA to encourage massive immigration, partitioned the country into two halves, one for the new immigrants, one for the old, then allowed the new immigrants actually to take the three quarters of the country containing the best land. The Americans are proud of the mayhem and misery they, more than any other nationality, are responsible for.
  26. Colonialism by proxy isn't any more acceptable than the conventional sort.
  27. When Britain announced that it was unwilling and unable to control the partition process and was going to withdraw it's forces, having abstained from the partition vote, it was obvious what was going to happen. The USA was the country in the best position to provide the core of a UN peacekeeping force to replace or assist the British but it did nothing, it wanted the result that occurred, at least President Truman did. It would be interesting to know why he was so keen on supporting the Jews even though his State Department wanted to propose that partition be delayed. He helped to "persuade" the UN representatives of other countries to vote for partition, did he receive some personal "persuasion" from the Jews himself, they were doing a lot of "persuading" at the time? They still are; in the United States they give money to the opponents of any politician who shows any coolness towards Israel, this is the only issue that counts as far as they are concerned (America Israel Public Affairs Committee, AIPAC. There was a long article about this in Time or Newsweek last year (2002))
  28. We in this country celebrate Winston Churchill's most famous speech in which he pledged that if the Germans invaded and occupied Britain we would continue to fight them until they had been driven out again, ("We will fight them on the beaches etc.") yet when the Palestinians continue to resist occupation and dispossession by the Jews they are condemned as terrorists. THE BLINDNESS OF WESTERN LEADERS TO THEIR OWN HYPOCRISY IS STAGGERING.
  29. What other racial group has been forcibly restored to control of a land it hasn't controlled for over two thousand years, where it has been a small minority for probably well over a thousand years, perhaps almost two thousand years, which it first invaded and took over in approx. 1250 BC (Conquest of Canaan), controlled till 600 BC (Babylonian Captivity) then controlled again from 167 BC (Maccabean Revolt) to 63 BC (Roman conquest)?
  30. The Arabs have been treated in the same way as the Red Indians in the USA and the Aborigines in Australia; not a wise move against a more numerous and more sophisticated people, at a time when this sort of behaviour has become unacceptable and also, when you badly need their oil. They are expected to swallow the medicine and bow to the will of the superior!!! Western, freedom-loving!!! democracies!!!
  31. The US isn't content just to interfere in the affairs of the other countries of the Americas using the Monroe Doctrine as it's (weak) justification, it now feels free to do whatever suits it's own selfish interests best anywhere in the world.
  32. Generally speaking, the Jews have prospered wherever they have gone despite not having their own state, they don't need one. There isn't likely to be another Holocaust unless they provoke it themselves.
  33. Why can't the Jews stand on their own feet instead of invoking an imaginary supernatural God to try to give their aspirations legitimacy? They need to learn to live in the rational present rather than the superstitious past.
  34. Only a small proportion of the total Jewish population of the world live in Palestine, if the majority don't find it necessary to invade and take over an Arab country why was it necessary for those who have? The colonial era should be over now.
  35. For as long as Jews remain in Palestine, Arabs and Muslims have a legitimate justification for being opposed to the Western Capitalist countries. Effectively, the West imposed the Jewish colonisation and take over of Palestine to suit themselves without any regard for the rights of Arabs, Muslims or Palestinians.
  36. The Jews wouldn't be subjected to persecution if they abandoned their primitive, racist, religious beliefs and integrated into the societies in which they live rather than insisting on maintaining their "differentness", their supposed superiority and supposed "God's chosen people" status.
  37. The only end-game the West will contemplate is Arafat, the Palestinians, the Arabs and Muslims accepting what they are left with with good grace.
  38. A repetition of the Jewish Holocaust is highly improbable. Other races have suffered massacres in the recent and distant past, they haven't received any special favours from the international community.
  39. The Jewish invasion and take-over of Palestine from the indigenous population is patently no more acceptable than Iraq's attempt to take over Kuwait or Hitler's attempt to get Lebensraum for the Germans, despite it's being sanctioned first by the League of Nations and then the UN (largely due to the influence of the USA). The League of Nations was virtually a club for the rich, developed nations (with a very small membership, approx. 30?) and the Jews and the USA used their wealth to fix the crucial vote in the UN in 1947.
  40. The Jews can take back Palestine with the West's blessing 2000 years after they last controlled it but Iraq mustn't take back Kuwait after 100? years. The former action suits the West's interests, the latter doesn't. How hypocritical is it possible to get.
  41. The United Nations should force the USA to give either the Jews or the Palestinians an independent sovereign state the same size as Palestine in the USA, to teach them that if they want to be generous it should be with their own property not someone else's. There are millions of Jews in the New York area, the Jews or Arabs now in Palestine could be given half the state of New York and half New York City, the existing residents would obviously be delighted to sacrifice their properties and other possessions for such a good cause. If the Jews moved in they would be able to get an even firmer hold on all the banks and financial institutions on Wall Street and make even more money.
  42. In 1920? it appears to have been the USA's President Wilson? who conceived the idea of Mandated Territories, largely to prevent the European powers, particularly Britain, incorporating conquered territories such as Palestine into their Empires and, perhaps, colonising them. At the same time it also seems to have been President Wilson who was particularly keen to make part of Britain's Mandate in Palestine the requirement for it to encourage the Jews to colonise the country and eventually make it their homeland (despite it's having been a Muslim country with a predominately Arab population for centuries). There seems to be some inconsistency here but, of course, the Western Nations have never been troubled by inconsistency when they see it to be to their advantage.
  43. After the death of about 200 people in the Bali bombing, Tony Blair said that the disregard for human life shown by the bombers was outrageous or words to that effect, yet for fifty years the Western Nations haven't shown any regard for the hundreds of thousands of Palestinian Arabs that their irresponsible and incompetent partitioning of Palestine in 1948 dispossessed and exiled, and don't show much concern about the continuing encroachment of the Jews on Palestinian land and the continuing slaughter of Palestinian resistance fighters and innocent civilians. Why are Western Leaders so selective and hypocritical with their outrage? Is it because they are too stupid to realise that they are, or because it serves their interests if they can get away with it? Both probably.
  44. Why doesn't the West insist on Israeli disarmament? It is the Israelis who are invading another people's country and taking it over.
  45. The fact that our government is prepared to give away our country does not entitle it to give away other people's; if this country was really a democracy, the government wouldn't be able to give it away.
  46. On BBC Radio 4, a member of the Israeli Likud Party said Israel is the nation of the Bible, it should have the Biblical boundaries. Rubbish. The Jews took the foolhardy step of opposing the Romans in 70AD and 130AD, they should have learned to live with the consequences by now. No other country has been returned to the situation it was in nearly two thousand years ago by the international community nor is likely to be, why are Jews so special? They are not, nor is the Bible. Most of the Bible is primitive myth, primitive rites, primitive mythologised history, accounts of primitive savagery that Ghengis Khan would have appreciated (ie.Numbers31:7-18 Joshua 6:20,21 2 Kings 2:23,24) and the raving of lunatics or near-lunatics. The Bible has probably been the cause of more trouble than any other book; being descendants of it's authors isn't a qualification for favours.

OPINIONS

  1. The sordid hypocrisy of the Western, freedom-loving democracies beggars belief. They profess to be waging a war on terrorism yet the event that triggered this war, the 11th September attack, was largely a long delayed consequence of the rape of Palestine by the Jews, which was "authorised", encouraged and assisted by the powerful Western nations.
  2. The Jews have been determined to take Palestine from the Arabs, by force if necessary, since the beginning of the Zionist movement. The USA in particular has consistently helped them in their dirty work. Britain has supported and made promises to whichever side could be most useful to it at any given time and hence has been criminally duplicitous. Israel, the USA and Britain have a strong claim to the title "Axis of Evil" in the Middle East and the World.
  3. The state of Israel was imposed on the Palestinians by the powerful Western states through their control of international bodies (which were inadequately representative anyway). It was created by the deliberate, premeditated and fully conscious determination of the Jews to take over a land to which most of them know they are not entitled, to a large extent by force and terror, in full knowledge of the consequences for the indigenous population. The Jews used terrorism first against the occupying power, Great Britain, then, when Britain withdrew, against the Arab majority population; the hypocrites have always used terrorism (and crushing force against poorly armed opponents) whenever it suited them. The state of Israel was built on crimes against humanity, on the exploitation of the poverty and weakness of the indigenous population of Palestine, on force, terror, ethnic cleansing, theft of property and land, bribery and corruption, opportunist exploitation of the corruption, incompetence and criminal negligence of world leaders and international bodies such as the League of Nations and the UN. This resulted in the displacement and dispossession of 700,000 or more Muslim Arabs in 1948 yet didn't provoke the West to declare war on terrorism. Why? Because the Western Powers had set it up. In 1920, at The League of Nations, they decided that a new Jewish homeland was to be created in Palestine, the indigenous population, 90% Arab, had no say in the matter because Britain had supplanted the Ottoman Empire as controlling power in the area during the First World War. The Palestinians were given no "freedom" to determine their own future and no "democratic" rights (despite having been given the impression they would be given their independence if they helped to defeat the Turks, which they did:- McMahon letters to Sharif Hussein, Oct.1916, see The History of Palestine).
  4. Effectively, the Israelis have taken Arab land and homes by force and the rich, "free democracies" have been their principle accomplices in the crime. Fifty years after one of the most shameful episodes in this shameful story, the partition of the country in 1948, both are still trying to feign innocence and even have the disgusting effrontery to call the Arabs, who are still trying to recover what was unjustly and cruelly taken from them, terrorists and cowards. They wage war on those who have been trying to obtain justice ever since 1920. (Jews were a minority of less than 10% in Palestine in 1920 and had been less than 5% before the Zionists started taking over the country in 1881. By 1948, when the United Nations intended the country to be partitioned into two halves of equal area, a Jewish state and an Arab state, the Jews were still outnumbered two to one and only owned 8% of the land. The partition was grossly unjust as planned and a free for all in practice, which the Jews won (despite the justified but ineffective intervention of neighbouring Arab countries)). 700,000 Palestinians fled their homes and were not allowed back when the fighting ended. In modern language, they were ethnically cleansed, many are still trapped in refugee camps. The "free democracies" of the West haven't lifted a finger to help them but have poured money and arms into Israel. The Jews now control far more territory even than the UN intended them to (three quarters of the country and most of the best land) and are pushing their settlements into the remaining nominally Arab parts of Palestine, the Gaza Strip, the West Bank of the Jordan and East Jerusalem, they are determined to have it all including the East Bank of the Jordan river, now part of the state of Jordan. They are confident the West won't do anything effective to stop them if they do it stealthily, bit by bit.)
  5. How would the British people react if they were told that a Jewish homeland was to be created in this country and Jewish immigration was to be encouraged then, twenty seven years later, that the country was going to be partitioned into a Jewish half and an Anglo-Saxon half. It is LUDICROUS that the Palestine Arabs were, and still are, expected to meekly accept that this treatment was fair and just when it was imposed on them.
  6. The leaders of the "freedom loving democracies" are so unbelievably THICK, MAD or BAD, they think they can continue to sweep this foul injustice under the carpet and pose as lily-white saints indefinitely. It was flagrant RACISM to make a gift of land and property that belonged to the Arabs a present for the Jews. Why are the Western nations unable to understand the humiliation, anger and hatred this insulting treatment arouses in Arabs and Muslims? They are making far worse disasters than that of September 11th almost inevitable by this crass, criminal, ostrich attitude.
  7. The Palestinians have been left with two small, unviable enclaves in Israel, the situation should be the other way round. The Jews have no more right to more than a token presence in Palestine than Christians. Religion shouldn't be a consideration, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all very similar and all are built on very flimsy foundations, they are probably all equally bogus.
  8. This situation must not be allowed to continue any longer. The Palestinians are the wronged party, any settlement should be generous to them. Ideally, a settlement that restores the right of the indigenous Palestinians (together with Arabs generally) to determine the future of their country themselves and to recover their stolen land and property should be made with minimum delay. The Palestinians would be well advised to insist that all Jews leave their country and never return, otherwise this disaster will repeat itself in the future. It is up to the nations that stitched the Palestinians up to decide what happens to the Jews. The United States was the principal author of the League of Nations mandate in 1920, the principal promoter of the partition in 1948 and has been the principal aider and abetter of Israel ever since, no doubt it will be as generous with it's own land as it has been with other people's and be happy to provide the Jews with a homeland in the USA if they are unable, or don't want, to return to where they originally came from (many of them came from the USA). It could invite the Israelis to build their new homeland in California. They could take over San Francisco as the equivalent of Tel Aviv and a chunk of territory to the north (or perhaps Silicon Valley to the south), the present inhabitants of the area would no doubt be delighted to make way for them.
  9. OR. At present, the Palestinians have been squeezed into the West Bank and Gaza strip which constitute about one quarter of the area of Palestine, Israel has the other three quarters which also seem to contain all of the best land. The Palestinians would gain a large area but little good land if they were given the whole of the Negev including Beersheba and Eilat, thus joining the Gaza Strip to the bulge of the West Bank south of Jerusalem, this would approximate the Peel partition proposal of 1937 which was almost certainly more just than the 1947 UN one. The Palestinians should be given more good land really. In the UN proposal, the Gaza Strip was supposed to extend further northwards than it does now, up to Ashdod?, perhaps this should also be done. The Jews would have accepted the Peel partition at the time it was proposed but only with the intention of expanding into the rest of Palestine subsequently. As long as they are in that area they will be determined to get complete control of the whole of the country eventually.
  10. OR. A ridge runs NW from the NW corner of the West Bank to Haifa, if this and all of Palestine to the north and east of this became Palestinian territory then the Palestinian state would become much more viable and the partition would be much fairer. The Gaza Strip could become Israel's. The Palestinians could be given the choice of this option or the last one. This one would give a better chance of resettling all the Palestinians in Palestine and all the Jews in Israel.
  11. OR. If the Palestinians and all Arab states would accept it, could the 1947 UN partition proposal be implemented as it was intended to be or with some agreed modifications.
  12. This mess has been created by the ham fisted interference of great powers and international bodies. The international community has a duty to clear up the mess it is responsible for, it can't be left to the warring parties.
  13. The Jews (the Orthodox variety at least) think they have a divine right to the land of Palestine because of a "covenant" supposedly made by Abraham with the Jewish God. The God supposedly undertook to reserve the land of Israel for Abraham's descendants for as long as they continued to worship him and to circumsize their boy babies eight days after birth. The Jews have been mutilating their boy babies penises ever since. It was probably Moses (more likely Abraham? No. See Circumcision) who concocted this ingenious way of strengthening the belief in his (simple?) people's minds that permanent occupation of this territory had been divinely legitimised and was divinely protected, a knot in their handkerchiefs wouldn't have been nearly as effective. Israel must be theirs, haven't they sacrificed part of their penises to ensure it. Moses is thought to have written the first five books of the Bible (was - four different authors are now thought to have been involved, see ????), the ones in which the making of the covenant with Abraham and it's reaffirmation with himself is described. He seems to have had a talent for imaginative writing which included the creation of the Universe in six days, the creation of Adam and Eve, the 900 yr plus lifespan of Adam and many of his descendants down to and including Noah of flood fame as well as the covenant and much else. (Modern research indicates that the flood may have been a real event, possibly the result of the breaching of a natural barrier at the Gibraltar straight that previously isolated the Mediterranean Sea, less full and therefore smaller than now, from the Atlantic Ocean. Another theory suggests that a natural damn burst where the Bosphorus is now, causing water to flood into or out of the Black Sea. However, the biblical account of Noah's flood still appears to be fanciful in most respects.) The Jews (some at least) still believe in their God, that they are his special concern and that the "covenant" is still in effect despite the Romans destroying their temple and kicking most of them out of Jerusalem and Palestine in AD 135 or thereabouts (the main exodus seems to have been earlier, in AD 70, see History of Palestine), despite the land of Israel being successively under the control of the Romans, Byzantium, Arabs, the Ottoman Empire and the UK from then until 1948, ie. despite their supposed God's failure to honour his side of the covenant for almost two thousand years, and despite the Holocaust. Since the rest of the world was not a party to the supposed "covenant" or given any favours by the supposed God it should treat both with the contempt such primitive beliefs deserve. There is no such thing as a divine right, unless, perhaps, one defines universal human rights as being divine; people who think they have a divine right to anything are deluded and poisonously conceited. The Jews need to be taught that they can't just take anything they want on a divine right pretext. Ariel Sharon is now claiming that the Jews have a divine right to Jerusalem as their capital city for ever; they have no such right, apart from any other consideration the Jews weren't originally natives of Palestine, they themselves were interlopers from elsewhere. (According to a recent book, the first homeland of the Jews, the one supposedly promised to Abraham by Yahweh, probably wasn't Palestine at all but the Red Sea coast region of Saudi Arabia called Asir, see ????)
  14. It is SICKENING, the way we let Israel arm itself to the teeth but prevent the Palestinians getting any armaments at all so that they have to fight with explosives strapped to their own bodies or with stones. The Israelis have deliberately tried to break the spirit of the Palestinians, and Arabs generally, by the use of overwhelming force, by responding to every little pin prick of resistance with ten times the violence. They have chosen to live by the sword and by flouting all the restraints of morality themselves but affect outrage when their victims, despite having their hands tied behind their backs by the international community, try to keep alive their claim to what is rightfully theirs. Israel can have nuclear weapons and the latest high tech. weaponry to bludgeon the rightful owners of it's territory but any attempt by Arab countries to get the means to defend their interests is squashed. For nearly a hundred years the Jews have been aided and abetted by the "freedom loving democracies!!!!" who gave the indigenous population of Palestine no freedom to exercise their democratic rights whatever. The Jews revel in using their military muscle to destroy and humiliate those whose homes and land they expropriated decades ago. Israel is a state founded on terror and conquest with the connivance of the great powers yet it's leaders are allowed to pose as fighters in the war against terrorism. They, together with their supporters, are the principal cause of the war, the most guilty parties. They have treated the Arabs with contempt, eventually they will get their just desserts. They have learned all the wrong lessons from their own experiences, they have copied the attitudes and methods of their own worst oppressors.
  15. The imposition of Jewish settlement and a Jewish homeland on the indigenous population of Palestine by the League of Nations in 1920 was wrong. (According to The Hutchinson Chronology of World History it was the Supreme Allied Council that assigned the Mandates over Palestine, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq.?? Did the League of Nations draw them up? The idea of the Mandates was to prevent Britain and France incorporating the mandated territories into their empires, it is usually attributed to US President Wilson. The US wasn't a member of the League of Nations in 1920. Or ever? There seem to be discrepancies between different accounts of events at this time.)
  16. The failure of the League of Nations to give the Palestinians any say in the matter was wrong. The Western Nations prate about freedom and democracy but they have denied both to the Palestinian Arabs for the greater part of a hundred years, they have imposed an arrangement that suited themselves.
  17. None of the members of The League of Nations would have tolerated such a grossly unjust interference in their own affairs, they only approved the policy because they wouldn't be adversely affected by it in any way themselves. They were only able to implement the policy because at the time the Palestinians didn't control their own affairs, they were subject to British control. The British Government thought a Jewish presence in Palestine might be helpful for protecting the Suez Canal.
  18. The League of Nations only represented a small part of the world's population, it only had 34? members in 1920.
  19. The League of Nations had no right to practise flagrant racial discrimination by favouring Jews at the expense of Arabs, it's members had no right to make a gift of territory that wasn't theirs to the Jews. The Jews forfeited their right to the land of Palestine when they left it, or lost it, hundreds and even thousands of years ago. (The main exodus appears to have been when the Romans put down a Jewish revolt in AD 70, destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem and exiled much of the Jewish population. Does any other racial group think it has the right to be restored to the situation it was in the best part of 2000 years ago? Is the US going to give half of it's land back to the Red Indians they finished dispossessing little more than one hundred years ago?). They made themselves thoroughly unpopular wherever they went then, towards the end of the 19th century, some decided they wanted to go back to their old home. They soon discovered the old home had a new occupant but they didn't let that stand in their way, they have been doing their worst to drive the legitimate population out of more and more of Palestine ever since. The feudal Western "democracies" have aided and abetted them all the time for their own selfish ends. (Improved protection of the Suez Canal route to the East in the days of Empire and latterly, improved protection of Western oil supplies). They have exercised double standards in the most dishonourable and blatant way to try to make it appear that what happened was legitimate and to duck out of their share of the responsibility for it. Supporting Israel is probably seen as being much less expensive than compensating the dispossessed and displaced Palestinians for their losses and suffering. This, of course, is the most important consideration in feudal societies, the bottom line, justice and honour are of little account. Despite their privileged upbringing and education our numbskull leaders are too thick and/or arrogant to see the inconsistency of their behaviour and attitudes. They prevent the Serbs driving the Albanians out of Kosovo, the Iraqis taking over Kuwait (and earlier, the Germans taking over everything they could get their hands on) but allow the Jewish expropriation of Arab Palestine to stand. The Palestinians are expendable, they don't have any oil or anything else the Capitalist countries want.
  20. The 1947 decision of the United Nations to partition Palestine into two almost equal halves despite the Arabs, after decades of Jewish immigration, still being a two thirds majority, was totally wrong.
  21. One of the main reasons why the Jews were favoured at Arab expense was because the literate, educated, well-organised and relatively prosperous immigrant Jews made a better impression on visiting UN investigative committees than the poor, backward Arabs. In the capitalist system the rich must always win over the poor, might and money is always right.
  22. It was totally wrong to commit a gross injustice on the Palestinians in order to help the Jews recover from the horror of the Holocaust and assuage Western civilisation's feelings of guilt for it. The Allies went to war against Hitler to prevent him seizing Lebensraum for the Germans then, immediately afterwards, seized Lebensraum for the Jews from the Palestinians.
  23. None of the member states of the UN were, or would have been, so generous with their own territory.
  24. The complete failure of the UN to make any provision for the partition to be implemented in an orderly way was criminally irresponsible.
  25. The UN and it's members were accomplices in the seizure of land and possessions by force and ethnic cleansing on a grand scale. Crimes for which the international community went to war with Saddam Hussein and for which Slobodon Milosovic has been indicted for crimes against humanity.
  26. At the time of the partition an arms embargo was put on both sides but it was only effective against the Arab states, millions of dollars donated by US Jews enabled the Israelis to buy large quantities of weaponry from Czechoslovakia and private arms dealers. The rich are allowed to kick the poor around, enslave them and make them poorer, that's Capitalism. (also Christianity, ie. "from those that hath not shall be taken even that which they hath").
  27. The failure of the international community, particularly the rich, powerful Western Nations, to do anything at all to right these wrongs or even help the estimated 700,000+ displaced and dispossessed Palestinians in any way at all over a period of five decades is unbelievably evil.
  28. The efforts of the Palestinians to waken the conscience of the world using the only weapons they can get, explosives strapped to themselves, old Kalashnikovs and stones, have just been watched with bemusement in the West, everybody is too THICK to appreciate the injustice that has been done or the anger, frustration, hatred and desperation the Palestinians feel.
  29. When all of the above is taken into account, the bombast and squealing of the USA in response to Sept.11th is absolutely nauseating. (The death toll now seems to have fallen to 3000. According to a recent letter in one of the broadsheets, 17,000 civilians were killed when Ariel Sharon bombarded Beirut and he was also implicated in the notorious Chatilla and Sabra refugee camp massacres that followed (and himself lead at least two others before, see History of Palestine paras.39, 40) but he's allowed to pose as an anti terrorist.)
  30. Even the attack of 11th September has failed to prompt the Western World to examine it's conscience, it calls the people who sacrificed their lives executing the attack cowards and monsters (it's leaders are apparently too ignorant to know about their own countries' killing and maiming of millions of innocent civilians in recent history, often with questionable justification, using carpet bombing, fire storms, nuclear weapons, napalm, agent orange etc. etc.) then proceeds to use it's impregnable high tech. arsenal to bomb nearly everything that moves in Afghanistan from the safety of thirty thousand feet.
  31. The feudal (capitalist), rich, "free democracies" don't know what conscience means.
  32. The Western Nations have given Israel all the weapons it has asked for and forced the Palestinian's to fight tanks, helicopter gunships and jet fighters with their hands effectively tied behind their backs.
  33. The US is quite happy for it's illegitimate puppet state to have weapons of mass destruction but no ally of that state's victims must be allowed to have them. Apparently the US is also prepared to use it's own nuclear weapons pre-emptively to ensure that this can't happen.
  34. The United States has started a War Against Terrorism yet it is the state most responsible for encouraging and enabling the Jews to take over Arab Palestine. (This isn't really surprising, in 1920 it hadn't given full citizenship to the survivors of it's genocide of it's own native Indians).
  35. The rich Western Nations think the situation in Palestine is a fait accompli and don't intend to do anything about it, they think it is cheaper for them to feign infallibility and tough it out rather than admit guilt and perhaps have to pay compensation in some way.
  36. Capitalism may be successful in many respects but it isn't pure or Holy, it is based on the "Bugger You Jack I'm Going to Make Sure I Maximise My Advantage Even if it is at Your Expense" philosophy, fundamentally it stinks as much as it's near identical predecessor, Feudalism, which very few people defend nowadays.
  37. The rich Western nations, in their arrogance, have made a huge mistake and refuse to acknowledge it or do anything to put it right.
  38. The President of the United States is probably "owned" by the Jews; most of the funds that finance the campaigns of both candidates in the US Presidential Elections are probably donated by Jewish bankers and businessmen so that they can control US policy towards Israel.
  39. "It was impossible for candidates to win elections in the states of New York, Illinois or Pennsylvania without Jewish support. President Harry Truman believed Jewish votes were vital to keep his Democratic Party in power." "Some of Truman's own officials pointed out that he might damage American interests by offending the Arabs. Truman replied: "I am sorry, gentlemen, but I have to answer to hundreds of thousands of those who are anxious for the success of Zionism; but I do not have hundreds of thousands of Arabs among my constituents." Quotes from The Arab-Israeli Conflict, S.J.Houston, Longman.
  40. The Jews probably own half of the assets of the USA (and this country as well) another reason why nobody does anything when Ariel Sharon claims to be fighting terrorism although everybody knows he is a vicious terrorist himself.
  41. The actual Gods of both Americans and Jews are Money and Power.
  42. Britain didn't support the UN's proposed partition of Palestine in 1947, it shouldn't support the even more unjust outcome of the botched partition now.
  43. Many countries probably supported it in the hope that it would result in an exodus of Jews from their own territory.
  44. The Jews have brought many of their misfortunes upon themselves, by being racist, exclusive and determined not to integrate. Also, the sinister, "Biblical" style adopted by Orthodox Jewish males, the unshaven faces and black outfits, seems to be designed to scare children and repel everyone else.
  45. The Jews have similar "master race" ideas to the Nazis. Most of the leaders of Zionism and Israel have considered the Arabs to be an inferior race just as Hitler regarded them and the Slavs. In fact they regard all other races as inferior to themselves, they still seem to suppose themselves to be God's chosen people. (They are still circumcising their eight day old baby boys with the idea of maintaining the supposed covenant aren't they?)
  46. One can't be an Orthodox Jew unless one has a (Orthodox?) Jewish mother and Orthodox Jews are not allowed to marry non (Orthodox?) Jews, ie. Jewish blood must not be contaminated with the inferior blood of other races. How RACIST is it possible to get?
  47. The Jews are the most uniquely unpopular race on the planet, there is even a (not very appropriate) technical term to express hatred of them, perhaps it is time for them to figure out why this is and what should be done about it. They probably need some new genes in their gene pool more than anything else.
  48. Saudi Arabia and many other Arab countries are rich with oil revenues that their ruling "elites" squander on corrupt, extravagant living; they should be made aware of their responsibility to help the Palestinians recover from the occupation of their country.
  49. The Israelis must be disarmed, just as the Arabs have been, immediately. The Western leaders who have acquiesced in the continuance of the Jewish occupation of Palestine should be barred from office immediately.
  50. Our leaders think they can help the Jews to displace Arabs from their land and homes, drive them into refugee camps and let them rot there for decades without any help then call them terrorists and wage war on them when they try to get justice, our leaders are unbelievably THICK, MAD or BAD or, more likely, all three at once.
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