NEWS: SUICIDE BOMBING
Robert Kilroy Silk describes Arabs as limb amputators, suicide bombers and woman abusers.
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More derogatory remarks about Arabs and Muslims with suicide bombers being first in line for criticism. The Arabs wouldn't use suicide bombing to try to regain the land that has been taken from them by the Jewish invaders and colonisers of their country if they had the state of the art main battle tanks, helicopter gun ships and jet fighters the Jews have but the Western Powers who stitched them up and sanctioned the 20th century Jewish Crusade into their country make sure they can't get much more than a few old
Kalashnikovs. Suicide bombers are the only effective weapon available to the Palestinians. Their own families and friends suffer as much distress as those of their victims.
Some people seem to think that suicide bombing is particularly evil and even cowardly. Surely it is the most altruistic and heroic act a person can perform if it is done in a just cause and as a last resort, qualifications that are both met in this instance, (the Arabs have every right to try to regain the land that was taken from them and given as a gift to the Jews, the USA being the country most responsible for being generous with other people's land and property
(although this country and others were almost as bad)). When British and US citizens sacrifice their lives in a just cause, to try to save others or for the honour of their country they are heroes, when Arabs do it they are heinous, the hypocrisy is nauseating.
There is one possible weakness in the defence of suicide killing for a just cause, this concerns it's consequences for the killer. Christians probably expect to be rewarded by going to everlasting life in heaven. The Koran promises an immediate reward of everlasting life(?) in a paradise populated by plentiful virgins. If suicide bombers are confident they are taking a short-cut to the world of their dreams they are not making a personal sacrifice or doing anything very praiseworthy (apart from
benefiting the cause that inspires the act) unless they are very happy in, ie. would prefer to remain in, their pre-suicide circumstances. It is unlikely that anybody but an idiot or drug user undertakes a suicide mission without fear, trepidation, misgivings and the sense that they are taking a leap into the unknown and an enormous risk of a terrible fate so, in most cases, some praise is due. (On the other hand, some people, ie mountain climbers, don't seem to value life very highly, they take enormous risks). The people who are most open to criticism in this matter are those who persuade suicide bombers that there is a heaven or paradise or the possibility of eternal life, and that suicide killing for a just cause is a way of accessing them quickly and certainly, despite there being no convincing evidence that this is the case. Step forward most
peddlers of religion.
This country has used near suicide tactics whenever it seemed to be necessary and even if it was futile, for example:- the Charge of the Light Brigade, the hundreds of thousands? of Tommies forced to go over the top to near certain death in the face of heavy machine-gun fire in the First World War, the pilots in the Battle of Britain. If it is the targeting of civilians that is thought to be so abominable then we, the Americans and the Jews have done plenty of
that too. According to the Bible, the Jews were doing it, supported by their Holy? God, thousands of years ago when they first invaded Palestine and killed every living thing, men, women, children, sheep and goats, first in Jericho then about four other places (Joshua 6:21 etc.). Most recently Ariel Sharon was responsible for the indiscriminate bombardment of part of Beirut in which 17,000 civilians were killed according to one source. This country's most questionable attack on civilians was probably the fire-storm bombing of Dresden in the Second World War and
America's the fire-storm bombing of all the major Japanese cities and the atom bombing of Hiroshima and
Nagasaki (also the use of napalm and agent orange in Vietnam). Between the three of us we are almost certainly responsible for many, many times more civilian casualties than the Arabs, particularly in recent times. In Palestine, the Arabs targeted soldiers when they could do it with a reasonable chance of success, it is only since the military's security precautions have been tightened that they have targeted civilians as a last resort.
If large scale Jewish immigration had been forced on this country by the League of Nations soon after the end of the First World War (as happened to the Palestinians),
then just after the end of the Second World War the United Nations had decreed that the country must be partitioned into a Jewish half and an indigenous population half (as happened to the Palestinians),
without even taking any steps to ensure that the partition was executed in an orderly way (as happened to the Palestinians, probably because the USA wanted the result that occurred),
so that fighting inevitably broke out as we, the indigenous population, tried to hold on to our land (as happened to the Palestinians),
and the Jews won because they had the money and influence to buy arms,
enabling them to terrorise 700,000 of us out of our homes (not to be allowed back) and to take more land than they had been allocated (as happened to the Palestinians),
and over fifty years later the Jews were still seizing more of the little that was left of our partition (as is happening to the Palestinians),
we would be a little upset and might even still have the guts to try to drive our oppressors out of what had been our country.
Practically everybody in this country except pacifists professes to admire and be inspired by Winston Churchill's Second World War speech "We shall fight them on the beaches.......; we shall never surrender; etc. ", yet most seem to expect the Palestinians to meekly give in to the annexation of their country by the Jews (backed by the might of the USA), whose only claim to it rests on their belief that they have a divine right to occupy it whenever it is convenient for them because they have been circumcising their boy babies for
millennia. Their claim that this fulfils their side of a bargain Abraham made with their God about three thousand years ago, which was supposed to guarantee their perpetual occupation of the Palestine area, is worthless since they wrote the Bible (where the story comes from, Genesis 17:1-14) themselves, no doubt to suit their own interests. They have been driven from the area twice since this bizarre bargain was supposedly struck, have only governed the area for short periods and were largely absent from the area from about 135 AD, when the Romans drove them from it, until the Zionists started colonising it again at the end of the nineteenth century. Their God, in the unlikely event that he, she or it exists and knows of this primitive, kinky covenant, seems to treat it with the contempt it deserves, so should we. Since the Bible punchers of the USA naively seem to believe that every word in the Bible is the word of God and the literal truth despite it being known that Judaism evolved over a long period and picked up bits and pieces of other primitive religions along the way, it is likely that they swallow the myth of the covenant as enthusiastically as the Jews, which perhaps explains their support for them.
The Islamic "terrorism" problem would almost certainly not exist today if the USA and Britain (principally) hadn't practised racial discrimination and racial engineering in the Middle East at the end of the First and Second World Wars on behalf of the Jews and at the expense of the Arabs, they only have themselves to blame (not Al
Quaeda) for the current mess. They prate about freedom and democracy but denied both to the indigenous population of Palestine to serve their own self-interests and they have done nothing to help or compensate those who have suffered terribly as a result.
NEWS: GAZA SETTLEMENTS
Due to pressure from the USA, Ariel Sharon has ordered some Jews to withdraw from their settlements in the West Bank or the Gaza Strip. Radio 4 broadcast the reaction of one of them; he complained that he and his fellow settlers were being ethnically cleansed!!!!!
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Under the protection of the USA (principally) the Jews have intentionally invaded and taken over nearly the whole of what was Arab/Muslim territory in Palestine displacing something like 700,000 Palestinians, according to the most common estimate, and wrecking the lives of most of the rest, yet this particular ignorant, corrupt hypocrite has the gall to squeal ethnic cleansing when he gets a dose of the medicine he and his countrymen have been very happy to dish out. It is time they were all ethnically cleansed to their moral and spiritual home, the genocidal (Red Indians), money-worshipping USA.
Apparently there are now a quarter of a million Jewish settlers in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. When they have gained control of these areas they will start encroaching on Jordanian territory on the eastern bank of the Jordan which they consider to be theirs. It is about time the rest of the world made it plain to them that they are not God's chosen people and they have no divine rights. If they want to be accepted as full members of the human race they must abandon their primitive conceits and practices and start living in the modern world rather than the world of ignorance, superstition and fantasy that existed three thousand years ago. For as long as they seize land they abandoned and forfeited almost 2000 years ago and consider themselves to be the superior, chosen race they will continue to be loathed and despised as much as those who thought they were the master race.
If anybody owed the Jews some land of their own it was surely the Germans, perhaps they should have been made to sacrifice the Baltic coast of Prussia or some other region?
The Israelis have always been going on about having a viable state for themselves, they have never given a damn about what the Palestinians are left with and now it is just a small land-locked area of barren hilltops, certainly not a viable state. The Israelis expect the Palestinians to disappear into the desert, that is what they should do, or be made to do, themselves.
Most of the trouble in the Middle East and the hostility the
Muslims feel towards the West has been caused by the insertion of
the state of Israel into what had been Arab/Muslim territory for
hundreds of years.
NEW OPINIONS
- The United Nations should sort out the mess in Palestine that it is
responsible for creating as a matter of great urgency. It should be in
continuous session until it has found a solution that is acceptable to the
wronged parties - Palestinians, Arabs, Muslims. The only wholly
satisfactory solution that will end all the terrorism is probably the
dissolution of the state of Israel or it's removal to somewhere else.
Somewhere where it will be accepted or that can be bought, Western Sahara
perhaps? (Occupied by Morocco according to my atlas. Illegally? I think I
have read that the people of Western Sahara are fighting for their
independence but they might like to be resettled in Palestine or elsewhere
if the offer was made to them, I shouldn't think there can be many of
them.)
- It is bloody stupid (and criminal) to declare war on Islamic
terrorism without first correcting the heinous injustice of the denial of
democratic rights to the indigenous people of Palestine, the imposition of
Jewish immigration on them about 75 years ago, a Jewish state about fifty
years ago and ethnic cleansing, dispossession, war, misery and mayhem ever
since. The creation of the state of Israel in the overwhelmingly Arab
/Muslim territory of Palestine was a monstrous blunder which has to be
undone before the consequences become catastrophic. The Jews don't have a
divine right to the land of Palestine or to Jerusalem or to anything else,
they don't deserve any special favours, they bring most of their
misfortunes upon themselves by the belief of many of them (particularly
the orthodox sort) that they are God's chosen people, ie. holier than everyone else and superior to
everyone else (reminiscent of Hitler's ideas?), also by their insistence
on being conspicuously different to everyone else. They are very fond of
labelling their critics anti-semitic and racist but they are both
themselves, most of their leaders (including Ariel Sharon) have believed
the Arabs (another racial group generally considered to be Semitic
(descended from Shem, Noah's first son)) to be an inferior race (just as
Hitler regarded Jews and Slavs) and their marriage laws (Orthodox Jews
particularly) forbid them to marry people of any other race (if they do,
they become tainted and cannot be Orthodox Jews any more), ie. they (the
unreformed variety at least) are also hypocrites of the first order.
- The small and third world members of the League of Nations then the United Nations were strong-armed and bribed by the
Jews and major powers into authorising the Jews to invade
and take over the Arab /Muslim country of Palestine.
- The Jews plan to build 600 more homes in the West Bank. How is it that the Jews can build settlements wherever they
like even in the Palestinian West Bank? Do they own the land, have they paid for it, is it wilderness, do they just seize whatever
they want?
- The reaction of the USA to merely having 4 planes hijacked and crashed into the twin towers and the Pentagon was to declare a war
on terrorism and invade Afghanistan and Iraq. How would it react if the United Nations voted for it to be partitioned into two
halves, one of which would be for the Jews?
- The leaders of the Western Nations (and their people) seem to be too blind, stupid or
arrogant to even recognise that the creation of Israel in Palestine was an
unforgivable mistake, a huge insult and
humiliation to Arabs and Muslims and a huge act of injustice and terrorism. The Jews were encouraged to practise ethnic cleansing
and dispossession by terrorism of the indigenous population yet now, as they continue to help themselves to even more land and
batter any opposition, they are allowed to claim they are fighting terrorism. Their aiders and abetters, principally the USA, also
claim to be fighting terrorism. Has there ever before been such colossal hypocrisy, injustice and culpability?
- Britain's role in this is only slightly less dishonourable than that of the USA.
- Terrorism is virtually certain to continue and get worse if the injustice of the imposition of a Jewish state on Palestine isn't
rescinded.
- The United Nations should be compelled to sort out the hopeless mess it was responsible for creating. It should be in continuous
session until a solution acceptable to the Palestinians, Arabs generally and Muslims generally has been found. If this requires
the Jews to leave Palestine so be it, they deserve a taste of their own medicine. They are not god's chosen elite (it is highly
unlikely that there is a god), they don't have any divine rights, only the same human rights the rest of us have, they can't have
everything they want at other people's expense, their unpopularity and fate is the result of their own conceit, their determination
to be different to and aloof from everybody else, they are as racist as anyone else, they despise the Arabs in the same way that
Hitler despised the Slavs, when anybody criticises them they shout anti-semite yet they are
anti-semitic themselves when the other Semites are Arabs, they are just as hypocritical as everybody
else.
- The handing over of half of Palestine to the Jews was shameful and one of the worst acts of injustice and terrorism of the
twentieth century. No group or race with any sense of honour would have accepted such unjust and misplaced charity.
- If it's right for Libya to pay £? billion compensation for the Lockerbie bombing how much is it right for the Jews to pay in compensation for the seizure of Palestinian territory?
- A group of people who are so deluded they think they are The Almighty God's chosen elite are on the same level as that other group who thought they were the master race. That is why they are equally unpopular with the rest of humanity.
- The Jews have shown that they cannot win the support of the Palestinian Arabs and therefore that the whole Zionist idea was misconceived.
- The Jews are supposed to save all their worship for God, they aren't supposed to worship false idols like
temple ruins or cities. (Ariel Sharon claimed that the Jews have a divine
right to Jerusalem a few months ago.) They don't even obey their God.
- Why should the rich Jews (collectively) be given favours at the expense of the poor Arabs? The Jews have brought many of their misfortunes upon themselves by their "God's chosen people" conceit and their determination to remain separate, different and distinct wherever they go. If they wear peculiar clothes and ape Abraham they are bound to be disliked.
- Predictably, the attempt to insert a Jewish state into Palestine has been a 75 year long disaster, it is time to abort it before it causes even worse trouble than it has already.
- The West Bank and Gaza Strip don't constitute a viable state and they are nothing like a just settlement for the indigenous Palestinians. The Palestinians should at least have a contiguous area and a Mediterranean port or a suitable site for one. The Israelis, the illegitimate invaders, wouldn't be satisfied if they were left with the quarter of Palestine the indigenous population look like being forced to accept (one of the least desirable quarters), why should the Palestinians accept it? If one side in the conflict should be left with just a quarter of the total area of Palestine it should be the invaders.
The Jews have constantly been preoccupied with their need for a viable
state but they don't give a Damn about the original population, they don't
want them to have anything at all.
- To make it easier for the Jews to withdraw from Palestine and as a gesture, perhaps the oil rich Arab countries could be persuaded to sell some of the worldwide assets they hold and use the proceeds to pay a token amount for the assets the Jews have created in Palestine and will have to abandon if they are resettled elsewhere. On the other hand, perhaps this isn't a good idea or a feasible one, the Jews were content to see the people they dispossessed living in refugee camps for decades.
- The major powers, particularly the USA and the UK, imposed the Jewish state of Israel on the Palestinians for their own strategic and convenience reasons yet now they have the effrontery to accuse the Palestinians of being terrorists and undemocratic, it beggars belief.
- Didn't the Pope apologise to Muslims recently for
Christian behaviour during the Crusades? What sort of
hypocrisy was this at a time when, for seventy five years
or more, most Christian nations have aided and encouraged
the Jews to invade and seize Palestine, an even less
defensible colonial adventure in these supposedly
enlightened times and at least as devastating for the
indigenous Muslim population as the Crusades.
- The Jews have invaded and taken over another people's
country by stealth, bribery, corruption and force, they
and their free, democratic accomplices in the West are
the terrorists.
- If the rich, powerful Western Nations wanted to give the
Jews a new homeland they should have donated some of
their own land for the purpose, not "authorised",
via international bodies that effectively they
controlled, the Jewish invasion and take-over of the land
of a people that was too weak and poor to be able to
resist effectively.
- The morality of the West is that the rich can always take
from the poor and make their lives even more intolerable.
- The only principle that the western nations have is that
their interests always come before those of any other
people's.
- Even Alastaire Cooke of "Letter from America"
fame (week ending June 29th 02 broadcast) seems to think
that inserting a US friendly people into another people's
state in the Middle East is something generous the USA
should be proud of. I suppose he thinks US citizens would
be delighted if the United Nations instructed the USA to
encourage massive immigration, partitioned the country
into two halves, one for the new immigrants, one for the
old, then allowed the new immigrants actually to take the
three quarters of the country containing the best land.
The Americans are proud of the mayhem and misery they,
more than any other nationality, are responsible for.
- Colonialism by proxy isn't any more acceptable than the
conventional sort.
- When Britain announced that it was unwilling and unable
to control the partition process and was going to
withdraw it's forces, having abstained from the partition
vote, it was obvious what was going to happen. The USA
was the country in the best position to provide the core
of a UN peacekeeping force to replace or assist the
British but it did nothing, it wanted the result that
occurred, at least President Truman did. It would be
interesting to know why he was so keen on supporting the
Jews even though his State Department wanted to propose
that partition be delayed. He helped to "persuade"
the UN representatives of other countries to vote for
partition, did he receive some personal "persuasion"
from the Jews himself, they were doing a lot of "persuading"
at the time? They still are; in the United States they
give money to the opponents of any politician who shows
any coolness towards Israel, this is the only issue that
counts as far as they are concerned (America Israel
Public Affairs Committee, AIPAC. There was a long article
about this in Time or Newsweek last year (2002))
- We in this country celebrate Winston Churchill's most
famous speech in which he pledged that if the Germans
invaded and occupied Britain we would continue to fight
them until they had been driven out again, ("We will
fight them on the beaches etc.") yet when the
Palestinians continue to resist occupation and
dispossession by the Jews they are condemned as
terrorists. THE BLINDNESS OF WESTERN LEADERS TO THEIR OWN
HYPOCRISY IS STAGGERING.
- What other racial group has been forcibly restored to
control of a land it hasn't controlled for over two
thousand years, where it has been a small minority for
probably well over a thousand years, perhaps almost two
thousand years, which it first invaded and took over in
approx. 1250 BC (Conquest of Canaan), controlled till 600
BC (Babylonian Captivity) then controlled again from 167
BC (Maccabean Revolt) to 63 BC (Roman conquest)?
- The Arabs have been treated in the same way as the Red
Indians in the USA and the Aborigines in Australia; not a
wise move against a more numerous and more sophisticated
people, at a time when this sort of behaviour has become
unacceptable and also, when you badly need their oil.
They are expected to swallow the medicine and bow to the
will of the superior!!! Western, freedom-loving!!!
democracies!!!
- The US isn't content just to interfere in the affairs of the
other countries of the Americas using the Monroe Doctrine
as it's (weak) justification, it now feels free to do
whatever suits it's own selfish interests best anywhere
in the world.
- Generally speaking, the Jews have prospered wherever they
have gone despite not having their own state, they don't
need one. There isn't likely to be another Holocaust
unless they provoke it themselves.
- Why can't the Jews stand on their own feet instead of
invoking an imaginary supernatural God to try to give
their aspirations legitimacy? They need to learn to live
in the rational present rather than the superstitious
past.
- Only a small proportion of the total Jewish population of
the world live in Palestine, if the majority don't find
it necessary to invade and take over an Arab country why
was it necessary for those who have? The colonial era
should be over now.
- For as long as Jews remain in Palestine, Arabs and
Muslims have a legitimate justification for being opposed
to the Western Capitalist countries. Effectively, the
West imposed the Jewish colonisation and take over of
Palestine to suit themselves without any regard for the
rights of Arabs, Muslims or Palestinians.
- The Jews wouldn't be subjected to persecution if they
abandoned their primitive, racist, religious beliefs and
integrated into the societies in which they live rather
than insisting on maintaining their "differentness",
their supposed superiority and supposed "God's
chosen people" status.
- The only end-game the West will contemplate is Arafat,
the Palestinians, the Arabs and Muslims accepting what
they are left with with good grace.
- A repetition of the Jewish Holocaust is highly improbable.
Other races have suffered massacres in the recent and
distant past, they haven't received any special favours
from the international community.
- The Jewish invasion and take-over of Palestine from the
indigenous population is patently no more acceptable than
Iraq's attempt to take over Kuwait or Hitler's attempt to
get Lebensraum for the Germans, despite it's being
sanctioned first by the League of Nations and then the UN
(largely due to the influence of the USA). The League of
Nations was virtually a club for the rich, developed
nations (with a very small membership, approx. 30?) and
the Jews and the USA used their wealth to fix the crucial
vote in the UN in 1947.
- The Jews can take back Palestine with the West's blessing
2000 years after they last controlled it but Iraq mustn't
take back Kuwait after 100? years. The former action
suits the West's interests, the latter doesn't. How
hypocritical is it possible to get.
- The United Nations should force the USA to give either the Jews or the
Palestinians an independent sovereign state the same size
as Palestine in the USA, to teach them that if they want
to be generous it should be with their own property not
someone else's. There are millions of Jews in the New York area, the
Jews or Arabs now in Palestine could be given half the state of New York
and half New York City, the existing residents would obviously be
delighted to sacrifice their properties and other possessions for such a
good cause. If the Jews moved in they would be able to get an even firmer
hold on all the banks and financial institutions on Wall Street and make
even more money.
- In 1920? it appears to have been the USA's President
Wilson? who conceived the idea of Mandated Territories,
largely to prevent the European powers, particularly
Britain, incorporating conquered territories such as
Palestine into their Empires and, perhaps, colonising
them. At the same time it also seems to have been
President Wilson who was particularly keen to make part
of Britain's Mandate in Palestine the requirement for it
to encourage the Jews to colonise the country and
eventually make it their homeland (despite it's having
been a Muslim country with a predominately Arab
population for centuries). There seems to be some
inconsistency here but, of course, the Western Nations
have never been troubled by inconsistency when they see
it to be to their advantage.
- After the death of about 200 people in the Bali bombing,
Tony Blair said that the disregard for human life shown
by the bombers was outrageous or words to that effect,
yet for fifty years the Western Nations haven't shown any
regard for the hundreds of thousands of Palestinian Arabs
that their irresponsible and incompetent partitioning of
Palestine in 1948 dispossessed and exiled, and don't show
much concern about the continuing encroachment of the
Jews on Palestinian land and the continuing slaughter of
Palestinian resistance fighters and innocent civilians.
Why are Western Leaders so selective and hypocritical
with their outrage? Is it because they are too stupid to
realise that they are, or because it serves their
interests if they can get away with it? Both probably.
- Why doesn't the West insist on Israeli disarmament? It is
the Israelis who are invading another people's country
and taking it over.
- The fact that our government is prepared to give away our country does not entitle it to give away other people's;
if this country was really a democracy, the government wouldn't be able to
give it away.
- On BBC Radio 4, a member of the Israeli Likud Party said Israel is the nation of the Bible, it should have the Biblical boundaries. Rubbish.
The Jews took the foolhardy step of opposing the Romans in 70AD and 130AD, they should have learned to live with the consequences by now.
No other country has been returned to the situation it was in nearly two
thousand years ago by the international community nor is likely to be, why
are Jews so special? They are not, nor is the Bible. Most of the Bible is
primitive myth, primitive rites, primitive mythologised history, accounts
of primitive savagery that Ghengis Khan would have appreciated
(ie.Numbers31:7-18 Joshua 6:20,21 2 Kings 2:23,24) and the raving of
lunatics or near-lunatics. The Bible has probably been the cause of more
trouble than any other book; being descendants of it's authors isn't a
qualification for favours.
OPINIONS
- The sordid hypocrisy of the Western, freedom-loving
democracies beggars belief. They profess to be waging a
war on terrorism yet the event that triggered this war,
the 11th September attack, was largely a long delayed
consequence of the rape of Palestine by the Jews, which
was "authorised", encouraged and assisted by
the powerful Western nations.
- The Jews have been determined to take Palestine from the
Arabs, by force if necessary, since the beginning of the
Zionist movement. The USA in particular has consistently
helped them in their dirty work. Britain has supported
and made promises to whichever side could be most useful
to it at any given time and hence has been criminally
duplicitous. Israel, the USA and Britain have a strong
claim to the title "Axis of Evil" in the Middle
East and the World.
- The state of Israel was imposed on the Palestinians by
the powerful Western states through their control of
international bodies (which were inadequately
representative anyway). It was created by the deliberate,
premeditated and fully conscious determination of the
Jews to take over a land to which most of them know they
are not entitled, to a large extent by force and terror,
in full knowledge of the consequences for the indigenous
population. The Jews used terrorism first against the
occupying power, Great Britain, then, when Britain
withdrew, against the Arab majority population; the
hypocrites have always used terrorism (and crushing force
against poorly armed opponents) whenever it suited them.
The state of Israel was built on crimes against humanity,
on the exploitation of the poverty and weakness of the
indigenous population of Palestine, on force, terror,
ethnic cleansing, theft of property and land, bribery and
corruption, opportunist exploitation of the corruption,
incompetence and criminal negligence of world leaders and
international bodies such as the League of Nations and
the UN. This resulted in the displacement and
dispossession of 700,000 or more Muslim Arabs in 1948 yet
didn't provoke the West to declare war on terrorism. Why?
Because the Western Powers had set it up. In 1920, at The
League of Nations, they decided that a new Jewish
homeland was to be created in Palestine, the indigenous
population, 90% Arab, had no say in the matter because
Britain had supplanted the Ottoman Empire as controlling
power in the area during the First World War. The
Palestinians were given no "freedom" to
determine their own future and no "democratic"
rights (despite having been given the impression they
would be given their independence if they helped to
defeat the Turks, which they did:- McMahon letters to
Sharif Hussein, Oct.1916, see The
History of Palestine).
- Effectively, the Israelis have taken Arab land and homes
by force and the rich, "free democracies" have
been their principle accomplices in the crime. Fifty
years after one of the most shameful episodes in this
shameful story, the partition of the country in 1948,
both are still trying to feign innocence and even have
the disgusting effrontery to call the Arabs, who are
still trying to recover what was unjustly and cruelly
taken from them, terrorists and cowards. They wage war on
those who have been trying to obtain justice ever since
1920. (Jews were a minority of less than 10% in Palestine
in 1920 and had been less than 5% before the Zionists
started taking over the country in 1881. By 1948, when
the United Nations intended the country to be partitioned
into two halves of equal area, a Jewish state and an Arab
state, the Jews were still outnumbered two to one and
only owned 8% of the land. The partition was grossly
unjust as planned and a free for all in practice, which
the Jews won (despite the justified but ineffective
intervention of neighbouring Arab countries)). 700,000
Palestinians fled their homes and were not allowed back
when the fighting ended. In modern language, they were
ethnically cleansed, many are still trapped in refugee
camps. The "free democracies" of the West
haven't lifted a finger to help them but have poured
money and arms into Israel. The Jews now control far more
territory even than the UN intended them to (three
quarters of the country and most of the best land) and
are pushing their settlements into the remaining
nominally Arab parts of Palestine, the Gaza Strip, the
West Bank of the Jordan and East Jerusalem, they are
determined to have it all including the East Bank of the
Jordan river, now part of the state of Jordan. They are
confident the West won't do anything effective to stop
them if they do it stealthily, bit by bit.)
- How would the British people react if they were told that
a Jewish homeland was to be created in this country and
Jewish immigration was to be encouraged then, twenty
seven years later, that the country was going to be
partitioned into a Jewish half and an Anglo-Saxon half.
It is LUDICROUS that the Palestine Arabs were, and still
are, expected to meekly accept that this treatment was
fair and just when it was imposed on them.
- The leaders of the "freedom loving democracies"
are so unbelievably THICK, MAD or BAD, they think they
can continue to sweep this foul injustice under the
carpet and pose as lily-white saints indefinitely. It was
flagrant RACISM to make a gift of land and property that
belonged to the Arabs a present for the Jews. Why are the
Western nations unable to understand the humiliation,
anger and hatred this insulting treatment arouses in
Arabs and Muslims? They are making far worse disasters
than that of September 11th almost inevitable by this
crass, criminal, ostrich attitude.
- The Palestinians have been left with two small, unviable
enclaves in Israel, the situation should be the other way
round. The Jews have no more right to more than a token
presence in Palestine than Christians. Religion shouldn't
be a consideration, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are
all very similar and all are built on very flimsy
foundations, they are probably all equally bogus.
- This situation must not be allowed to continue any longer.
The Palestinians are the wronged party, any settlement
should be generous to them. Ideally, a settlement that
restores the right of the indigenous Palestinians (together
with Arabs generally) to determine the future of their
country themselves and to recover their stolen land and
property should be made with minimum delay. The
Palestinians would be well advised to insist that all
Jews leave their country and never return, otherwise this
disaster will repeat itself in the future. It is up to
the nations that stitched the Palestinians up to decide
what happens to the Jews. The United States was the
principal author of the League of Nations mandate in 1920,
the principal promoter of the partition in 1948 and has
been the principal aider and abetter of Israel ever
since, no doubt it will be as generous with it's own land
as it has been with other people's and be happy to
provide the Jews with a homeland in the USA if they are
unable, or don't want, to return to where they originally
came from (many of them came from the USA). It could invite the Israelis to build their
new homeland in California. They could take over San
Francisco as the equivalent of Tel Aviv and a chunk of
territory to the north (or perhaps Silicon Valley to the
south), the present inhabitants of the area would no
doubt be delighted to make way for them.
- OR. At present, the Palestinians have been squeezed into
the West Bank and Gaza strip which constitute about one
quarter of the area of Palestine, Israel has the other
three quarters which also seem to contain all of the best
land. The Palestinians would gain a large area but little
good land if they were given the whole of the Negev
including Beersheba and Eilat, thus joining the Gaza
Strip to the bulge of the West Bank south of Jerusalem,
this would approximate the Peel partition proposal of
1937 which was almost certainly more just than the 1947
UN one. The Palestinians should be given more good land
really. In the UN proposal, the Gaza Strip was supposed
to extend further northwards than it does now, up to
Ashdod?, perhaps this should also be done. The Jews would
have accepted the Peel partition at the time it was
proposed but only with the intention of expanding into
the rest of Palestine subsequently. As long as they are
in that area they will be determined to get complete
control of the whole of the country eventually.
- OR. A ridge runs NW from the NW corner of the West Bank
to Haifa, if this and all of Palestine to the north and
east of this became Palestinian territory then the
Palestinian state would become much more viable and the
partition would be much fairer. The Gaza Strip could
become Israel's. The Palestinians could be given the
choice of this option or the last one. This one would
give a better chance of resettling all the Palestinians
in Palestine and all the Jews in Israel.
- OR. If the Palestinians and all Arab states would accept
it, could the 1947 UN partition proposal be implemented
as it was intended to be or with some agreed
modifications.
- This mess has been created by the ham fisted interference
of great powers and international bodies. The
international community has a duty to clear up the mess
it is responsible for, it can't be left to the warring
parties.
- The Jews (the Orthodox variety at least) think they have
a divine right to the land of Palestine because of a
"covenant" supposedly made by Abraham with the
Jewish God. The God supposedly undertook to reserve the
land of Israel for Abraham's descendants for as long as
they continued to worship him and to circumsize their boy
babies eight days after birth. The Jews have been
mutilating their boy babies penises ever since. It was
probably Moses (more likely Abraham? No. See Circumcision)
who concocted this ingenious way of strengthening the
belief in his (simple?) people's minds that permanent
occupation of this territory had been divinely
legitimised and was divinely protected, a knot in their
handkerchiefs wouldn't have been nearly as effective.
Israel must be theirs, haven't they sacrificed part of
their penises to ensure it. Moses is thought to have
written the first five books of the Bible (was - four different authors
are now thought to have been involved, see ????), the ones in
which the making of the covenant with Abraham and it's
reaffirmation with himself is described. He seems to have
had a talent for imaginative writing which included the
creation of the Universe in six days, the creation of
Adam and Eve, the 900 yr plus lifespan of Adam and many
of his descendants down to and including Noah of flood
fame as well as the covenant and much else. (Modern
research indicates that the flood may have been a real
event, possibly the result of the breaching of a natural
barrier at the Gibraltar straight that previously
isolated the Mediterranean Sea, less full and therefore
smaller than now, from the Atlantic Ocean. Another theory
suggests that a natural damn burst where the Bosphorus is
now, causing water to flood into or out of the Black Sea.
However, the biblical account of Noah's flood still
appears to be fanciful in most respects.) The Jews (some
at least) still believe in their God, that they are his
special concern and that the "covenant" is
still in effect despite the Romans destroying their
temple and kicking most of them out of Jerusalem and
Palestine in AD 135 or thereabouts (the main exodus seems
to have been earlier, in AD 70, see History
of Palestine), despite the land of Israel being
successively under the control of the Romans, Byzantium,
Arabs, the Ottoman Empire and the UK from then until 1948,
ie. despite their supposed God's failure to honour his
side of the covenant for almost two thousand years, and
despite the Holocaust. Since the rest of the world was
not a party to the supposed "covenant" or given
any favours by the supposed God it should treat both with
the contempt such primitive beliefs deserve. There is no
such thing as a divine right, unless, perhaps, one
defines universal human rights as being divine; people
who think they have a divine right to anything are
deluded and poisonously conceited. The Jews need to be
taught that they can't just take anything they want on a
divine right pretext. Ariel Sharon is now claiming that
the Jews have a divine right to Jerusalem as their
capital city for ever; they have no such right, apart
from any other consideration the Jews weren't originally
natives of Palestine, they themselves were interlopers
from elsewhere. (According to a recent book, the first homeland of the
Jews, the one supposedly promised to Abraham by Yahweh, probably wasn't
Palestine at all but the Red Sea coast region of Saudi Arabia called Asir,
see ????)
- It is SICKENING, the way we let Israel arm itself to the
teeth but prevent the Palestinians getting any armaments
at all so that they have to fight with explosives
strapped to their own bodies or with stones. The Israelis
have deliberately tried to break the spirit of the
Palestinians, and Arabs generally, by the use of
overwhelming force, by responding to every little pin
prick of resistance with ten times the violence. They
have chosen to live by the sword and by flouting all the
restraints of morality themselves but affect outrage when
their victims, despite having their hands tied behind
their backs by the international community, try to keep
alive their claim to what is rightfully theirs. Israel
can have nuclear weapons and the latest high tech.
weaponry to bludgeon the rightful owners of it's
territory but any attempt by Arab countries to get the
means to defend their interests is squashed. For nearly a
hundred years the Jews have been aided and abetted by the
"freedom loving democracies!!!!" who gave the
indigenous population of Palestine no freedom to exercise
their democratic rights whatever. The Jews revel in using
their military muscle to destroy and humiliate those
whose homes and land they expropriated decades ago.
Israel is a state founded on terror and conquest with the
connivance of the great powers yet it's leaders are
allowed to pose as fighters in the war against terrorism.
They, together with their supporters, are the principal
cause of the war, the most guilty parties. They have
treated the Arabs with contempt, eventually they will get
their just desserts. They have learned all the wrong
lessons from their own experiences, they have copied the
attitudes and methods of their own worst oppressors.
- The imposition of Jewish settlement and a Jewish homeland
on the indigenous population of Palestine by the League
of Nations in 1920 was wrong. (According to The
Hutchinson Chronology of World History it was the Supreme
Allied Council that assigned the Mandates over Palestine,
Syria, Lebanon and Iraq.?? Did the League of Nations draw
them up? The idea of the Mandates was to prevent Britain
and France incorporating the mandated territories into
their empires, it is usually attributed to US President
Wilson. The US wasn't a member of the League of Nations
in 1920. Or ever? There seem to be discrepancies between
different accounts of events at this time.)
- The failure of the League of Nations to give the
Palestinians any say in the matter was wrong. The Western
Nations prate about freedom and democracy but they have
denied both to the Palestinian Arabs for the greater part
of a hundred years, they have imposed an arrangement that
suited themselves.
- None of the members of The League of Nations would have
tolerated such a grossly unjust interference in their own
affairs, they only approved the policy because they
wouldn't be adversely affected by it in any way
themselves. They were only able to implement the policy
because at the time the Palestinians didn't control their
own affairs, they were subject to British control. The
British Government thought a Jewish presence in Palestine
might be helpful for protecting the Suez Canal.
- The League of Nations only represented a small part of
the world's population, it only had 34? members in 1920.
- The League of Nations had no right to practise flagrant
racial discrimination by favouring Jews at the expense of
Arabs, it's members had no right to make a gift of
territory that wasn't theirs to the Jews. The Jews
forfeited their right to the land of Palestine when they
left it, or lost it, hundreds and even thousands of years
ago. (The main exodus appears to have been when the
Romans put down a Jewish revolt in AD 70, destroyed the
Temple in Jerusalem and exiled much of the Jewish
population. Does any other racial group think it has the
right to be restored to the situation it was in the best
part of 2000 years ago? Is the US going to give half of
it's land back to the Red Indians they finished
dispossessing little more than one hundred years ago?).
They made themselves thoroughly unpopular wherever they
went then, towards the end of the 19th century, some
decided they wanted to go back to their old home. They
soon discovered the old home had a new occupant but they
didn't let that stand in their way, they have been doing
their worst to drive the legitimate population out of
more and more of Palestine ever since. The feudal Western
"democracies" have aided and abetted them all
the time for their own selfish ends. (Improved protection
of the Suez Canal route to the East in the days of Empire
and latterly, improved protection of Western oil supplies).
They have exercised double standards in the most
dishonourable and blatant way to try to make it appear
that what happened was legitimate and to duck out of
their share of the responsibility for it. Supporting
Israel is probably seen as being much less expensive than
compensating the dispossessed and displaced Palestinians
for their losses and suffering. This, of course, is the
most important consideration in feudal societies, the
bottom line, justice and honour are of little account.
Despite their privileged upbringing and education our
numbskull leaders are too thick and/or arrogant to see
the inconsistency of their behaviour and attitudes. They
prevent the Serbs driving the Albanians out of Kosovo,
the Iraqis taking over Kuwait (and earlier, the Germans
taking over everything they could get their hands on) but
allow the Jewish expropriation of Arab Palestine to stand.
The Palestinians are expendable, they don't have any oil
or anything else the Capitalist countries want.
- The 1947 decision of the United Nations to partition
Palestine into two almost equal halves despite the Arabs,
after decades of Jewish immigration, still being a two
thirds majority, was totally wrong.
- One of the main reasons why the Jews were favoured at
Arab expense was because the literate, educated, well-organised
and relatively prosperous immigrant Jews made a better
impression on visiting UN investigative committees than
the poor, backward Arabs. In the capitalist system the
rich must always win over the poor, might and money is
always right.
- It was totally wrong to commit a gross injustice on the
Palestinians in order to help the Jews recover from the
horror of the Holocaust and assuage Western
civilisation's feelings of guilt for it. The Allies went
to war against Hitler to prevent him seizing Lebensraum
for the Germans then, immediately afterwards, seized
Lebensraum for the Jews from the Palestinians.
- None of the member states of the UN were, or would have
been, so generous with their own territory.
- The complete failure of the UN to make any provision for
the partition to be implemented in an orderly way was
criminally irresponsible.
- The UN and it's members were accomplices in the seizure
of land and possessions by force and ethnic cleansing on
a grand scale. Crimes for which the international
community went to war with Saddam Hussein and for which
Slobodon Milosovic has been indicted for crimes against
humanity.
- At the time of the partition an arms embargo was put on
both sides but it was only effective against the Arab
states, millions of dollars donated by US Jews enabled
the Israelis to buy large quantities of weaponry from
Czechoslovakia and private arms dealers. The rich are
allowed to kick the poor around, enslave them and make
them poorer, that's Capitalism. (also Christianity, ie.
"from those that hath not shall be taken even that
which they hath").
- The failure of the international community, particularly
the rich, powerful Western Nations, to do anything at all
to right these wrongs or even help the estimated 700,000+
displaced and dispossessed Palestinians in any way at all
over a period of five decades is unbelievably evil.
- The efforts of the Palestinians to waken the conscience
of the world using the only weapons they can get,
explosives strapped to themselves, old Kalashnikovs and
stones, have just been watched with bemusement in the
West, everybody is too THICK to appreciate the injustice
that has been done or the anger, frustration, hatred and
desperation the Palestinians feel.
- When all of the above is taken into account, the bombast
and squealing of the USA in response to Sept.11th is
absolutely nauseating. (The death toll now seems to have
fallen to 3000. According to a recent letter in one of
the broadsheets, 17,000 civilians were killed when Ariel
Sharon bombarded Beirut and he was also implicated in the
notorious Chatilla and Sabra refugee camp massacres that
followed (and himself lead at least two others before,
see History of Palestine paras.39,
40) but he's allowed to pose as an anti terrorist.)
- Even the attack of 11th September has failed to prompt
the Western World to examine it's conscience, it calls
the people who sacrificed their lives executing the
attack cowards and monsters (it's leaders are apparently
too ignorant to know about their own countries' killing
and maiming of millions of innocent civilians in recent
history, often with questionable justification, using
carpet bombing, fire storms, nuclear weapons, napalm,
agent orange etc. etc.) then proceeds to use it's
impregnable high tech. arsenal to bomb nearly everything
that moves in Afghanistan from the safety of thirty
thousand feet.
- The feudal (capitalist), rich, "free democracies"
don't know what conscience means.
- The Western Nations have given Israel all the weapons it
has asked for and forced the Palestinian's to fight
tanks, helicopter gunships and jet fighters with their
hands effectively tied behind their backs.
- The US is quite happy for it's illegitimate puppet state
to have weapons of mass destruction but no ally of that
state's victims must be allowed to have them. Apparently
the US is also prepared to use it's own nuclear weapons
pre-emptively to ensure that this can't happen.
- The United States has started a War Against Terrorism yet
it is the state most responsible for encouraging and
enabling the Jews to take over Arab Palestine. (This
isn't really surprising, in 1920 it hadn't given full
citizenship to the survivors of it's genocide of it's own
native Indians).
- The rich Western Nations think the situation in Palestine
is a fait accompli and don't intend to do anything about
it, they think it is cheaper for them to feign
infallibility and tough it out rather than admit guilt
and perhaps have to pay compensation in some way.
- Capitalism may be successful in many respects but it
isn't pure or Holy, it is based on the "Bugger You
Jack I'm Going to Make Sure I Maximise My Advantage Even
if it is at Your Expense" philosophy, fundamentally
it stinks as much as it's near identical predecessor,
Feudalism, which very few people defend nowadays.
- The rich Western nations, in their arrogance, have made a
huge mistake and refuse to acknowledge it or do anything
to put it right.
- The President of the United States is probably "owned"
by the Jews; most of the funds that finance the campaigns
of both candidates in the US Presidential Elections are
probably donated by Jewish bankers and businessmen so
that they can control US policy towards Israel.
- "It was impossible for candidates to win elections
in the states of New York, Illinois or Pennsylvania
without Jewish support. President Harry Truman believed
Jewish votes were vital to keep his Democratic Party in
power." "Some of Truman's own officials pointed
out that he might damage American interests by offending
the Arabs. Truman replied: "I am sorry, gentlemen,
but I have to answer to hundreds of thousands of those
who are anxious for the success of Zionism; but I do not
have hundreds of thousands of Arabs among my constituents."
Quotes from The Arab-Israeli Conflict, S.J.Houston,
Longman.
- The Jews probably own half of the assets of the USA (and
this country as well) another reason why nobody does
anything when Ariel Sharon claims to be fighting
terrorism although everybody knows he is a vicious
terrorist himself.
- The actual Gods of both Americans and Jews are Money and
Power.
- Britain didn't support the UN's proposed partition of
Palestine in 1947, it shouldn't support the even more
unjust outcome of the botched partition now.
- Many countries probably supported it in the hope that it
would result in an exodus of Jews from their own
territory.
- The Jews have brought many of their misfortunes upon
themselves, by being racist, exclusive and determined not
to integrate. Also, the sinister, "Biblical"
style adopted by Orthodox Jewish males, the unshaven
faces and black outfits, seems to be designed to scare
children and repel everyone else.
- The Jews have similar "master race" ideas to
the Nazis. Most of the leaders of Zionism and Israel have
considered the Arabs to be an inferior race just as
Hitler regarded them and the Slavs. In fact they regard
all other races as inferior to themselves, they still
seem to suppose themselves to be God's chosen people. (They are still
circumcising their eight day old baby boys with the idea of maintaining
the supposed covenant aren't they?)
- One can't be an Orthodox Jew unless one has a (Orthodox?)
Jewish mother and Orthodox Jews are not allowed to marry
non (Orthodox?) Jews, ie. Jewish blood must not be
contaminated with the inferior blood of other races. How
RACIST is it possible to get?
- The Jews are the most uniquely unpopular race on the
planet, there is even a (not very appropriate) technical
term to express hatred of them, perhaps it is time for
them to figure out why this is and what should be done
about it. They probably need some new genes in their gene
pool more than anything else.
- Saudi Arabia and many other Arab countries are rich with
oil revenues that their ruling "elites"
squander on corrupt, extravagant living; they should be
made aware of their responsibility to help the
Palestinians recover from the occupation of their country.
- The Israelis must be disarmed, just as the Arabs have
been, immediately. The Western leaders who have
acquiesced in the continuance of the Jewish occupation of
Palestine should be barred from office immediately.
- Our leaders think they can help the Jews to displace
Arabs from their land and homes, drive them into refugee
camps and let them rot there for decades without any help
then call them terrorists and wage war on them when they
try to get justice, our leaders are unbelievably THICK,
MAD or BAD or, more likely, all three at once.